Herping the Big Sky.
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- Dell Despain
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Herping the Big Sky.
Went herping w/ Cole, Trey, and my daughter Emma. Cole and I will be making this post together, with me posting in white and Cole posting in blue. We're short on time, or we would have asked Scott for another screen name to post jointly under. Our goal with this posting scheme is to keep down the redundancy. Hopefully everyone enjoys! Credit should go to Crazins aka Marisa for coming up with the multiple speakers in one post. Brilliant!
I'll jump back in here with a few habitat shots to provide a sense of place. Things are starting to green up around here, following an unbelievably dry winter and spring.
Here's Dell and Trey doing what we do. Those are the highest mountains in the state of Montana in the background.
We had a very busy day of hunting, and the time flew by as a result. Here's what we found. The day was warm, but not hot. It was also partly overcast. I think we were all surprised at the number of Coluber, Pituophis, and Crotalus seen "out on the crawl" that day.
First snake of the day was a Yellow bellied racer, Coluber constrictor. I failed to photograph even one of the over a dozen we found, but this from a few years ago will have to do.
We found a number of C. viridis out basking on this beautiful day.
I obviously ended up with quite a few "similar" shots, so I'll attempt to keep repeats to a minimum
Here's one of the multiple viridis seen that day in situ, as spotted by "Eagle Eye" Trey.
Find the snake!
There it is!
And a little closer.
Indeed we were having great weather, which made for some great herping.
Beartooth Mountains from the hillsides we were hunting in.
Aaaah, the Beartooths...
With the warmth and recent moisture, many of the plants were coming into bloom. I'm a bit of a xerophyte/succulent aficionado in addition to being a herper, so I was thrilled to see Escobaria [Coryphantha] missouriensis in bloom with smokin' peach/orange flowers.
The weather was so nice and the rocks had just the right amount of moisture for a number of Salamanders to be up and soaking up radiant heat.
Tiger Salamander, Ambystoma mavortium melanostictum.
I snapped a few photos of this darker critter, too
This mavortium was particularly bright looking.
Agreed. It was a nice contrast to the drab bugger above
We found over 10 Bull snakes, which I never get tired of.
Bull snake, Pituophis catenifer
I took the time to photograph a number of them. Our Bull Snakes tend to be high-contrast, with lots of rusty-tinted blotches.
Here's a different animal, as flipped
Dell's daughter is a trooper. She can put up with conditions in the field that most grown-ass men would shun. Here she is with one of the day's Pituophis.
For Cole and I it's Milk snakes that motivate us, and lucky for us he flipped this bright animal.
Milk snake, Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata.
Of course, I photographed the milk, too... for a few minutes, anyway. My camera battery died shortly thereafter. Here are the results.
A little different shot.
Trey wanted to see a Horned Lizard, and we went to work in a little different spot to try and find these fat little gargoyles. We quickly found a neonate from last year.
Greater Short-horned lizard, Phrynosoma hernandesi.
Then another.
And a couple of adults.
We always enjoy these spiky little guys.
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I'll round this out with a few more habitat shots, for those who care.
-Cole
-Dell
I'll jump back in here with a few habitat shots to provide a sense of place. Things are starting to green up around here, following an unbelievably dry winter and spring.
Here's Dell and Trey doing what we do. Those are the highest mountains in the state of Montana in the background.
We had a very busy day of hunting, and the time flew by as a result. Here's what we found. The day was warm, but not hot. It was also partly overcast. I think we were all surprised at the number of Coluber, Pituophis, and Crotalus seen "out on the crawl" that day.
First snake of the day was a Yellow bellied racer, Coluber constrictor. I failed to photograph even one of the over a dozen we found, but this from a few years ago will have to do.
We found a number of C. viridis out basking on this beautiful day.
I obviously ended up with quite a few "similar" shots, so I'll attempt to keep repeats to a minimum
Here's one of the multiple viridis seen that day in situ, as spotted by "Eagle Eye" Trey.
Find the snake!
There it is!
And a little closer.
Indeed we were having great weather, which made for some great herping.
Beartooth Mountains from the hillsides we were hunting in.
Aaaah, the Beartooths...
With the warmth and recent moisture, many of the plants were coming into bloom. I'm a bit of a xerophyte/succulent aficionado in addition to being a herper, so I was thrilled to see Escobaria [Coryphantha] missouriensis in bloom with smokin' peach/orange flowers.
The weather was so nice and the rocks had just the right amount of moisture for a number of Salamanders to be up and soaking up radiant heat.
Tiger Salamander, Ambystoma mavortium melanostictum.
I snapped a few photos of this darker critter, too
This mavortium was particularly bright looking.
Agreed. It was a nice contrast to the drab bugger above
We found over 10 Bull snakes, which I never get tired of.
Bull snake, Pituophis catenifer
I took the time to photograph a number of them. Our Bull Snakes tend to be high-contrast, with lots of rusty-tinted blotches.
Here's a different animal, as flipped
Dell's daughter is a trooper. She can put up with conditions in the field that most grown-ass men would shun. Here she is with one of the day's Pituophis.
For Cole and I it's Milk snakes that motivate us, and lucky for us he flipped this bright animal.
Milk snake, Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata.
Of course, I photographed the milk, too... for a few minutes, anyway. My camera battery died shortly thereafter. Here are the results.
A little different shot.
Trey wanted to see a Horned Lizard, and we went to work in a little different spot to try and find these fat little gargoyles. We quickly found a neonate from last year.
Greater Short-horned lizard, Phrynosoma hernandesi.
Then another.
And a couple of adults.
We always enjoy these spiky little guys.
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I'll round this out with a few more habitat shots, for those who care.
-Cole
-Dell
- Kent VanSooy
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Loved it! The beasties are pretty up there, the scenery is fantastic, and the multiple narrators unique! Thanks gents.
- Rich in Reptiles
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A Montana post!!! Awesome! The Pituophis is especially pretty, and i liked how that tiger photo turned out with the yellow lichens!
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So many rocks! Do you flip everything in an area or only pick the best-looking ones?
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The habitat shots alone made my jaw drop to the floor.
Looks like an amazing time. Those Salamanders are killer!
Milk is stunning- wouldn't have expected less from you Milk-heads!
Looks like an amazing time. Those Salamanders are killer!
Milk is stunning- wouldn't have expected less from you Milk-heads!
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Love me some posts from the dynamic duo. Look for some out of state visitors soon.
- chris drake
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Great post Dell. Looked like a good day of herping. I could use some of those days. Love the milks.
Chris.
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Ditto, great stuff. Montana might have the finest looking bullsnakes in the states. Maybe viridis too.
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Dang you are getting me excited to move up to Montana next year for college!!! That milk and those tiger salamanders are awesome!!
Neil
Neil
- Kevin McRae
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Great post! Montana is a very beautiful State. Love the bullsnakes and the horned lizards.
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Obviously love the multistrata but also that awesome mavortium-- how many tigers did you flip? I was just in the Black Hills for work, and had to go tiger hunting and trout fishing as the crazy late spring weather dumped rain and low temps the whole time and kept multistrata options non-existant. Hopefully all the precip will pay off for you guys in the form of some great June herping. Thanks for the post, and for those habitat pics, Cole.
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Beautiful shots of some areas we don't commonly get to see herps from. A few of those viridis are really nice.
- muskiemagnet
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hey dell, take care of my good friend trey while he is in your neighborhood. he's definitely one of those genuine "good people" out there. we've been talking about stu and i heading out that way this fall. i didn't realize you were that close. i'm going camping with stu this weekend with saugas on the mind. we'll talk then. if we make it out there in the fall, we'll have to make a great fishing story happen and resurrect the "fishing story" thread once again.
-ben
-ben
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I like the tag-team aspect to the report, and of course I love the report. And can you believe it? An inveterate tricolor addict such as myself enjoying the gorgeous milksnake posted, but actually enjoying the bright yellow tiger salamander still more! Well done, guys!
Gerry
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Great post guys. I didn't at all expect the Short Horned Lizard, what a cool animal to get to see. The milks are very interesting and the habitat is super. I would love getting lost out there.
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Awesome stuff guys great post I have to make it up there some time. Love the multi I was hoping to see a charina but great post regardless it's been a tough spring for me to
- Dell Despain
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Kent VanSooy: Thanks so much Kent, always nice to hear positive comments from someone who does such great field work himself.
These kinds of rock being ideal.
If your heart-rate picks up when you walk up to a group of rocks like this, you might be a herper.
Zach: Thanks a lot for the kind words. You should plan a spring trip up here sometime.
Chris Drake: Thanks Chris, get yourself out there it'll clear your head.
Kevin McRae: Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words Gerry, glad you liked the post.
Thanks, and glad you liked the post Brandon.
-Dell
The Ambystoma are always a treat for us up here, glad you liked the photos.Rich in Reptiles wrote:A Montana post!!! Awesome! The Pituophis is especially pretty, and i liked how that tiger photo turned out with the yellow lichens!
Ha! We'd still be out there if we flipped every rock on that ranch. As you know Jonathan, so many herps can be under even a frisbee sized rock, but we try to cherry pick some of the best platers for sure.jonathan wrote:So many rocks! Do you flip everything in an area or only pick the best-looking ones?
These kinds of rock being ideal.
If your heart-rate picks up when you walk up to a group of rocks like this, you might be a herper.
Zach: Thanks a lot for the kind words. You should plan a spring trip up here sometime.
Looking forward to it. Were going to have a great time too, cigars are in the humidor waiting for you.TimCO wrote:Look for some out of state visitors soon.
Chris Drake: Thanks Chris, get yourself out there it'll clear your head.
Good to hear from you John, I think we do have some sweet Bulls, and the Buzztails for viridis are nice enough, but not as nice as the Crots you guys are pulling in TX.John Williams wrote:Ditto, great stuff. Montana might have the finest looking bullsnakes in the states. Maybe viridis too.
Be prepared to work for the herps Neil, they aren't always easy, but your gonna love Missoula.Neil M wrote:Dang you are getting me excited to move up to Montana next year for college!!! That milk and those tiger salamanders are awesome!!
Neil
Kevin McRae: Thanks.
I hear ya Matt, I've got M. Ingassi here as I write this, waiting for better weather to do more milk snake hunting. In the meantime we've been trout fishing as a time killer until the weather improves.kcmatt wrote:the crazy late spring weather dumped rain and low temps the whole time and kept multistrata options non-existant.
Thanks Brendan, for viridis they aren't bad. Hard to beat most of the Buzztails you post however.Brendan wrote: A few of those viridis are really nice.
I don't think Trey needs much help finding herps, and I'd be happy to herp w/ him again anytime. Maybe a different hat next time.muskiemagnet wrote:hey dell, take care of my good friend trey while he is in your neighborhood. he's definitely one of those genuine "good people" out there.
Thanks for the kind words Gerry, glad you liked the post.
You should make the effort sometime Justin, and we like to drink beer afterwards too.justinm wrote: I would love getting lost out there.
Ouch, missing the boas is still stinging a little. We still have a few weeks to find a boa however. Cross your fingers for us, we'll need it.Brandon D wrote: Love the multi I was hoping to see a charina but great post regardless
Thanks, and glad you liked the post Brandon.
-Dell
- Chris Smith
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Great stuff! Thanks for sharing.
-Chris
-Chris
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Great post Dell. Oh and did I say that the photograpgy is fantastic. Makes me want to move back up in that part of the country again. The milks are always special. How many of those Tiger Salamanders did you guys find that day?
-Gerald
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A tag-team Montana post. Awesome.
Look at all those gorgeous rocks!
-Mike
Look at all those gorgeous rocks!
-Mike
- Cole Grover
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Thanks for the kind words, folks. Sorry for the slow response on my part, luckily Dell's quick to the draw and handled it. Here are a few more shots for those who care.
And a sweet little viridis with an ugly shed
Gerald,
On that particular day, I believe we only found two. There were lots more found the following weekend, after five days of heavy, drenching rain.
Mike,
Thanks! I like rocks, too. My back, however, does not.
Ben,
Trey can hold his own. Solid dude, he is, and fits right in to the MT crowd. We're glad to have him here! You boys from WI don't seem to stand out like a sore thumb as to do many "foreigners" around here.
-Cole
And a sweet little viridis with an ugly shed
Gerald,
On that particular day, I believe we only found two. There were lots more found the following weekend, after five days of heavy, drenching rain.
Mike,
Thanks! I like rocks, too. My back, however, does not.
Ben,
Trey can hold his own. Solid dude, he is, and fits right in to the MT crowd. We're glad to have him here! You boys from WI don't seem to stand out like a sore thumb as to do many "foreigners" around here.
-Cole
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Wow, that is some great stuff. One of these years I'm going to have to drive north! Great post, loved the commentary, animals and photos!
- Cole Grover
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Matt,
Spring is a busy time for both Dell and me, but with a little planning, we'd love to show you (and Timmey) around.
-Cole
Spring is a busy time for both Dell and me, but with a little planning, we'd love to show you (and Timmey) around.
-Cole
- Knightkrawler5
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Not sure how I missed this before...Awesome that you got Trey out looking for herps (Been a good friend of Treys for many years) He told me all about that day and got me excited to come out and visit
- Knightkrawler5
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I'm going to have to do a post soon to show him all he missed back here in WI for the spring........
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Great stuff guys!
Those Pituophis are insane lookin' and those viridis are nice!
-Kris
Those Pituophis are insane lookin' and those viridis are nice!
-Kris
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I'm loving those young Phrynosoma. They're the funniest looking lizards. I liked working with P. cornutum in Texas.
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I laughed, I cried, I banged my head on a wall, tween bouts of slack-jawed drooling somnolence, muttering "Wow, Wow, Wow", like a mantra. That's how good this post was. jim
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jim, settle down. go change your underwear. probably shooting blanks anyways though.hellihooks wrote:I laughed, I cried, I banged my head on a wall, tween bouts of slack-jawed drooling somnolence, muttering "Wow, Wow, Wow", like a mantra. That's how good this post was. jim
-ben
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Wow...
"Green with Envy"
I always look forward to your posts... Thank you for sharing..
The habitat photos , Milks, tigers... All Great shots..
It always feels you took us with you, great job everyone..
Those Rock pictures get the heart pumping..
Fundad
"Green with Envy"
I always look forward to your posts... Thank you for sharing..
The habitat photos , Milks, tigers... All Great shots..
It always feels you took us with you, great job everyone..
Those Rock pictures get the heart pumping..
Fundad
- Cole Grover
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Thanks, guys! Glad you enjoyed. It has been a funky year, but getting out is always a good time!
-Cole
-Cole
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Dell, you never fail to impress!
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Hello Dell,
The icing would of been a couple of those beautiful Brownies and a Bronze-back or two!
Other then that well done my friend
J.P.
The icing would of been a couple of those beautiful Brownies and a Bronze-back or two!
Other then that well done my friend
J.P.
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The one thing I didn't do was chub. And I've never been charged with 'assault with a dead weapon' Although...I passed on the chanced to 'party' with 3 drunk women I met at a gas station, to go herping, last Sat night. At the time... I wasn't sure if 2 3's and a 4, would equal a 'ten'... but now kinda wish I'd 'done the math'... jimmuskiemagnet wrote:jim, settle down. go change your underwear. probably shooting blanks anyways though.hellihooks wrote:I laughed, I cried, I banged my head on a wall, tween bouts of slack-jawed drooling somnolence, muttering "Wow, Wow, Wow", like a mantra. That's how good this post was. jim
-ben