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Species gaps by County

Post by FunkyRes » December 23rd, 2010, 8:11 am

Jonathon did this for Southern California before forum crash. I stated I was going to try for NorCal.
I think it is important to try and fill in as many gaps as possible, so I'll try to do two NorCal county per month. When visiting those counties, it would be cool to try and target those species if possible to fill in some gaps.

I'll use CAS and MVZ to determine what species we should have records for in what NorCal counties.

Currently missing from Shasta County:

Northern Rubber Boa - Charina bottae
Coast Nightsnake - Hypsiglena ochrorhyncha
Desert Striped Whipsnake - Coluber taeniatus taeniatus
Shasta Alligator Lizard - Elgaria coerulea shastensis
Blainville’s Horned Lizard - Phrynosoma coronatum - Probably extirpated in county
California Whiptail - Aspidoscelis tigris munda
Western Spadefoot - Spea hammondii - Possibly extirpated, may be present in some land protected for Orcutt grass (which requires vernal pools)
Coastal Tailed Frog - Ascaphus truei
California Red-logged Frog - Rana draytonii - Probably extirpated in county
Oregon Spotted Frog - Rana pretiosa - Probably extirpated in county
Coastal Giant Salamander - Dicamptodon tenebrosus
California Slender Salamander - Batrachoseps attenuatus
Southern Long-toed Salamander - Ambystoma macrodactylum sigillatum
Sierra Newt - Taricha torosa sierrae

Except for Spadefoot Toad, every species above has a museum record I am aware of. Spadefoot doesn't have records I am aware of but has historic localities indicated by a DF&G Report (Jennings and Hayes 1994 pg 94-95)

Next Month: I'll list Lassen and Modoc Counties (they'll be big lists)
Anyone still have SoCal missing species by county?

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by hellihooks » December 23rd, 2010, 9:11 am

FunkyRes wrote: Anyone still have SoCal missing species by county?
I'll tell you what we're missing... JONATHON!! He really was (and is) a database phenom...
In my first term as an officer (Con.) and back when we had 'open' outings, I had proposed that rather than going to the same places year after year (Cab., Borr. Sp, ect) we try to fill in the 'gaps' county by county, until we had basically ALL of So Cal surveyed. But, given the problems inherent to the 'open to the public' outings, we went in another direction, which has worked out well.
I still think, that in addittion to the surveys of conservation areas, a comprehensive assay of all Ca. Counties/areas/habitats is a worthwhile goal. I think I even suggested a members-only, invite-only 'herp team' to be formed, to survey 'public lands' thus reducing the 'trustworthyness' issues associated with 'open' outings. Just an idea... but one that may be viable in NorCal. I will say that every Nafha member I have met 'up north' has been what I would consider very Trustworthy! cyaaa... jim
Hopefully someone will step up and try to fill Jonathan's shoes, in regard to qualifying/quantifying data... I sure don't have the chops for it, nor the equipment... :roll:

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Post by FunkyRes » December 23rd, 2010, 10:53 am

I just did Contra Costa County - using MVZ only but I don't believe CAS has anything MVZ doesn't there.

San Francisco Alligator Lizard - Elgaria coerulea
Western Side-blotched Lizard - Uta stansburiana elegans
San Joaquin Coachwhip - Coluber flagellum ruddocki - May be extirpated, habitat change
California Nightsnake - Hypsiglena ochrorhyncha nuchalata
Coast Gartersnake - Thamnophis elegans terrestris
California Red-sided Gartersnake - Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis
?? Valley Gartersnake - Thamnophis sirtalis fitchii ??
Diamondback Watersnake - Nerodia rhombifer - Introduced, formerly established, possibly extirpated
Foothill Yellow-legged Frog - Rana boylii

I know some locales for some of those, I'll try to hit them when in Contra Costa next year.

EDIT - removed a few for which there are closed records, thus they didn't show up in search.

For what's left, I know locales for E coerulea, T elegans, T s infernalis and historic N rhombifer. If they are not vouchered in CCC by end of March, I will see what I can find for them (hell. might anyway even if they are). Historic (very old) locales for Uta I've checked turned up squat, but I hear they are still occasionally seen in Diablo area. Where, don't know, but ...

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Post by Chad M. Lane » December 23rd, 2010, 3:29 pm

I don't believe I've found one, but I know a few people that have. If they will not enter in the data, I will for them, giving them credit of course.
Guess I forgot to add what species I didn't find! California Nightsnake in Contra Costa County.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » December 23rd, 2010, 9:47 pm

FunkyRes wrote:Anyone still have SoCal missing species by county?
I'm sure I have my old lists sitting around somewhere, though they'd have to be updated. But Psyon already put together a great resource for us to check species/county much more easily:

http://www.nafha.org/california-chapter ... -by-county



Of course, letting people know what should be in the area and is still missing from the database is helpful for sure.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by FunkyRes » December 23rd, 2010, 11:15 pm

OK - it's not next month yet, but I did Lassen and Modoc.
We don't have many vouchered records from them, so if you want some easy county records ;)

Lists of missing may not be perfect, but hopefully aren't too far off.

-=-=- Modoc County -=-=-

Southern Long-toed Salamander - Ambystoma macrodactylum sigillatum
Boreal Toad - Anaxyrus boreas boreas
American Bullfrog - Lithobates catesbeianus
Northern Leopard Frog - Lithobates pipiens - Possibly extirpated
Sierran Treefrog - Pseudacris sierra
Columbia Spotted Frog - Rana luteiventris - Possibly extirpated
Oregon Spotted Frog - Rana pretiosa - Probably extirpated
Great Basin Spadefoot - Spea intermontana

Northern Rubber Boa - Charina bottae
Western Yellow-bellied Racer - Coluber constrictor mormon
Desert Striped Whipsnake - Coluber taeniatus taeniatus
Great Basin Rattlesnake - Crotalus oreganus lutosus
?? Northern Pacific Rattlesnake - Crotalus oreganus oreganus ??
Northern Desert Nightsnake - Hypsiglena chlorophaea deserticola
St. Helena Mountain Kingsnake - Lampropeltis zonata zonata
Mountain Gartersnake - Thamnophis elegans elegans (Intergrades with T e vagrans in extreme north)
Valley Gartersnake - Thamnophis sirtalis fitchi
Gophersnake - Pituophis catenifer (Pacific X GB)

Great Basin Whiptail - Aspidoscelis tigris tigris
Shasta Alligator Lizard - Elgaria coerulea shastensis
Skilton's Skink - Plestiodon skiltonianus skiltonianus
Pygmy Short-horned Lizard - Phrynosoma douglasii
Western Sagebrush Lizard - Sceloporus graciosus gracilis
Northern Sagebrush Lizard - Sceloporus graciosus graciosus
Northwestern Fence Lizard - Sceloporus occidentalis occidentalis
Nevada Side-blotched Lizard - Uta stansburiana nevadensis


-=-=- Lassen County -=-=-

Southern Long-toed Salamander - Ambystoma macrodactylum sigillatum
Western Toad - Anaxyrus boreas (boreal + intergrade)
American Bullfrog - Lithobates catesbeianus
Sierran Treefrog - Pseudacris sierra
Cascades Frog - Rana cascadae - Population Critical
Great Basin Spadefoot - Spea intermontana

Western Pond Turtle - Actinemys marmorata - Single isolated locality

Western Yellow-bellied Racer - Coluber constrictor mormon
Desert Striped Whipsnake - Coluber taeniatus taeniatus
Great Basin Rattlesnake - Crotalus oreganus lutosus
Northern Pacific Rattlesnake - Crotalus oreganus oreganus
St. Helena Mountain Kingsnake - Lampropeltis zonata zonata
Gophersnake - Pituophis catenifer (Pacific & Pacific X GB)
Long-nosed Snake - Rhinocheilus lecontei
Sierra Gartersnake - Thamnophis couchii
Valley Gartersnake - Thamnophis sirtalis fitchi
Variable Groundsnake - Sonora semiannulata semiannulata

Great Basin Whiptail - Aspidoscelis tigris tigris
Great Basin Collared Lizard - Crotaphytus bicinctores
Shasta Alligator Lizard - Elgaria coerulea shastensis
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard - Gambelia wislizenii
Northern Desert Horned Lizard - Phrynosoma platyrhinos platyrhinos
Skilton's Skink - Plestiodon skiltonianus skiltonianus
Northern Sagebrush Lizard - Sceloporus graciosus graciosus
Northwestern Fence Lizard - Sceloporus occidentalis occidentalis
Nevada Side-blotched Lizard - Uta stansburiana nevadensis

Edit Jan 4 - removed P douglassi and added S semiannulata per Jackson Shedd
Edit Jan 18 - add L. z. zonata to both per Hubbs

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Jackson Shedd » December 30th, 2010, 3:45 pm

What reference did you use for Phrynosoma douglasii in Lassen Co.? There are no true occurrences I know of, and they realistically shouldn't be there, but I do know of two (false) sources indicating they are present in Lassen. But, you can add Sonora semiannulata to that list.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by FunkyRes » December 30th, 2010, 11:06 pm

Jackson Shedd wrote:What reference did you use for Phrynosoma douglasii in Lassen Co.? There are no true occurrences I know of, and they realistically shouldn't be there, but I do know of two (false) sources indicating they are present in Lassen. But, you can add Sonora semiannulata to that list.
For P douglassi I used the dot locality map at California Herps.

http://www.californiaherps.com/lizards/ ... siimap.jpg

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Jackson Shedd » December 31st, 2010, 10:32 am

That's what I figured. I don't know where Tim B. found that locality back when he made that map, but as far as I know only P. platyrhinos occurs in Lassen Co., especially from the area where that map shows the locality dot (Honey Lake Basin region). Verified P. douglasii specimens are only known from Siskiyou and Modoc Co.'s in CA.

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Post by jonathan » January 4th, 2011, 7:01 am

Okay, I've found my old records and I'll update them county by county.

First off, Imperial County. There are only 200 vouchered records in naherp.com for Imperial County, which means that lots of the 49 taxa that are recorded have only a few entries and therefore large gaps in distribution. This is what's in the database (I noted if there were fewer than 5 entries or if none had been found and recorded in the last two years):



Herps recorded for the NAHERP database in Imperial County

Rio Grande Leopard Frog (only 4)
American Bullfrog (only 1 vouchered entry)
Couch's Spadefoot (only 1, none since 2004)
Great Plains Toad (only 2)

Desert Tortoise (only 4, none since 2008)
Texas Spiny Softshell (only 1, none since 2004)

Desert Banded Gecko
Peninsular Leaf-toed Gecko
Mediterranean House Gecko (only 1, not vouchered)
Granite Night Lizard (only 2)
Desert Night Lizard (only 1, none since 2006)
Great Basin Whiptail (no vouchered entries!)
Zebra-tail Lizard (only 3 vouchered entries)
Granite Spiny Lizard (only 1 vouchered entry)
Purple-backed Spiny Lizard
Flat-tailed Horned Lizard
Southern Desert Horned Lizard
Banded Rock Lizard
Long-tailed Brush Lizard (only 2, none since 2006)
Colorado River Tree Lizard (only 2, none since 2007)
Western Side-blotched Lizard
Northern Side-blotched Lizard
Colorado Desert Fringe-toed Lizard (only 2 vouchered entries)
Great Basin Collared Lizard
Baja California Collared Lizard
Longnose Leopard Lizard (only 1 vouchered entry)
Desert Iguana
Chuckwalla

Desert Blind Snake (only 2, none since 2005)
Coastal Rosy Boa (only 2)
Desert Rosy Boa (only 1, none since 2007)
Spotted Leaf-nosed Snake
Colorado Desert Shovelnose Snake
Mojave Shovelnose Snake (misID?)
Sonoran Gopher Snake
Desert Glossy Snake
Desert Nightsnake (only 2, none since 2006)
Coast Nightsnake (misID?)
Longnose Snake (only 1, none since 2006)
California Kingsnake
Desert Patchnose Snake (only 2, none since 2007)
Striped Racer (only 1, none since 2006)
Red Coachwhip (only 2, none since 2008)
Baja California Lyre Snake (only 3, none since 2007)
Checkered Garter Snake (only 2, none since 2005)
Colorado Desert Sidewinder
Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake
Red Diamond Rattlesnake
Western Diamondback Rattlesnake



Herps that may be in Imperial County but are not in the database

Garden Slender Salamander (tiny possibility they extend past the county line)

Lowland Leopard Frog (may be extirpated now)
Colorado River Toad (may be extirpated now)
Woodhouse's Toad
Red-spotted Toad

Sonoran Mud Turtle (may be extirpated now)
Snapping Turtle

California Legless Lizard (small possibility it gets into Imperial)
Gilbert's Skink?
Switaki Barefoot Gecko
Blacktail Brush Lizard
Gila Monster

Ground Snake
Baja California Rat Snake :P

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 4th, 2011, 10:14 pm

Okay, now here's San Diego County. San Diego County has an impressive 2,838 vouchered entries already. However, it's a large county and those records are split between 81 different taxa, so there are still gaps in distribution and many taxa that need a lot more entries. Once again I noted if any taxa had less than 5 entries or hadn't been recorded in the last 2 years.



Herps recorded for the NAHERP database in San Diego County

Barred Tiger Salamander (only 1, none since 2007)
Monterey Ensatina (only 1)
Large-blotched Ensatina
Arboreal Salamander
Garden Slender Salamander

California Chorus Frog
Baja California Chorus Frog
Northern Pacific Chorus Frog (1 misID in database)
American Bullfrog
California Toad
Arroyo Toad
Red-spotted Toad
Western Spadefoot

Red-eared Slider (only 2)

Silvery Legless Lizard
Green Anole (only 1)
Jackson's Chameleon (only 1)
Yucca Night Lizard (only 1, none since 2008)
Granite Night Lizard
Sandstone Night Lizard (only 1, none since 2003)
Baja California Night Lizard (only 3)
San Diego Banded Gecko
Desert Banded Gecko
Switaki's Barefoot Gecko
Peninsular Leaf-toed Gecko
Orange-throated Whiptail
Coastal Tiger Whiptail
Great Basin Tiger Whiptail
Great Basin Fence Lizard
Southern Sagebrush Lizard (only 3, none since 2006)
Yellow-backed Spiny Lizard (only 2, possible nomenclature confusion)
Purple-backed Spiny Lizard
Granite Spiny Lizard
Banded Rock Lizard
Blacktail Brush Lizard
Long-tailed Brush Lizard
Western Side-blotched Lizard
Northern Side-blotched Lizard (possible nomenclature confusion)
Colorado Desert Fringe-toed Lizard
Mojave Zebra-tail Lizard
Coast Horned Lizard
Cape Horned Lizard (2 misID)
Flat-tailed Horned Lizard
Southern Desert Horned Lizard
Baja Collared Lizard
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard
Cope's Leopard Lizard
Desert Iguana
Chuckwalla
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Gilbert’s Skink
Western Skink
Coronado Island Skink

Coastal Rosy Boa
Mexican Rosy Boa (only 1)
Desert Blind Snake (only 3)
Southwestern Blind Snake
Western Blackhead Snake
Mojave Shovelnose Snake? (only 3, misID)
Colorado Desert Shovelnose Snake
San Diego Ringneck Snake
San Bernardino Ringneck Snake (only 1, integrade)
Pacific Ringneck Snake (incorrect entry)
Spotted Leafnose Snake
Desert Night Snake
Coast Night Snake (I don't think this is currently correct)
San Diego Night Snake
Collar Night Snake (are there some issues with night snake names here?)
California Glossy Snake
Desert Glossy Snake
San Diego Gopher Snake
Sonoran Gopher Snake
Longnose Snake
California Kingsnake
San Diego Mountain Kingsnake
Baja California Lyre Snake
Desert Patchnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake
Western Yellow-bellied Racer
Red Coachwhip
Baja California Coachwhip
Striped Racer
Two-lined Garter Snake
Colorado Desert Sidewinder
Mojave Sidewinder (incorrect entries)
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake
Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake
Red Diamond Rattlesnake



Herps that may be in San Diego County but are not in the database

Blackbelly Slender Salamander (possibly extreme north in Santa Anas)
California Newt

California Red-legged Frog (now probably extirpated)
Mountain Yellow-legged Frog (now probably extirpated)
African Clawed Frog (introduced)

Western Pond Turtle
Green Sea Turtle
Painted Turtle (introduced)
Texas Spiny Softshell (introduced)
Snapping Turtle (introduced)
Desert Tortoise (introduced)

Mediterranean House Gecko (introduced)

San Bernardino Mountain Kingsnake (Santa Rosa mountains)
California Red-sided Garter Snake
Baja California Rat Snake! LOL
Yellowbelly Sea Snake (probably only an occasional visitor to SoCal)

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 13th, 2011, 1:31 pm

Orange County has decent variety of entries for being a relatively small, mostly urban county, but could use a lot more numbers for many species. 426 vouchered records for 40 different taxa.

Blackbelly Slender Salamander
Garden Slender Salamander
Monterey Ensatina (only 1 entry)
Arboreal Salamander (only 2 entries, none since 2002)
California Newt

California Chorus Frog (only 4 vouchered entries)
Baja California Chorus Frog
American Bullfrog
Western Toad
Arroyo Toad (only 1 entry, none with adults)
African Clawed Frog

Western Pond Turtle (only 2 vouchered, none since 2003)
Red-eared Slider
Texas Spiny Softshell
Common Snapping Turtle (only 1 entry)

California Legless Lizard (only 1 entry, none since 2003)
San Diego Banded Gecko (only 2 entries)
Orange-throated Whiptail (only 3 vouchered)
Coastal Tiger Whiptail (only 1 vouchered)
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Western Skink
Great Basin Fence Lizard
Western Side-blotched Lizard

Southwestern Blind Snake (only 1 entry, none since 2007)
Coastal Rosy Boa (only 3 entries)
San Bernardino Ringneck Snake
San Diego Ringneck Snake
San Diego Night Snake
California Kingsnake
San Diego Mountain Kingsnake (only 3 entries)
Red Coachwhip (only 3 vouchered)
Striped Racer (only 4 vouchered)
San Diego Gopher Snake
Western Black-headed Snake (only 1 entry, none since 2007)
Baja California Lyre Snake (only 2 entries)
Two-striped Garter Snake (only 1 entry)
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake
Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake
Red Diamond Rattlesnake



HERPS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VOUCHERED YET IN ORANGE COUNTY

Western Spadefoot

Painted Turtle

Coast Horned Lizard
Gilbert's Skink
Jackson's Chameleon


California Glossy Snake
Longnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake
Western Yellow-bellied Racer
California Red-sided Garter Snake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by RobertH » January 13th, 2011, 2:18 pm

I saw that there are no entries for green sea turtles in SD county.

I definitely saw a juvenile from my kayak right off La Jolla Shores in August 2005, but didn't have a camera on me then, so there are no voucher shots. :( But it surfaced only 25 feet from me and having snorkeled with them in Hawaii, I am quite sure it was a green sea turtle.

I take it we only want vouchered sightings in the database, correct?

Robert

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 13th, 2011, 3:52 pm

There is ongoing debate about including unvouchered records in the database, with many people (including myself) in favor of it. I think a record like that could definitely be put in unvouchered just for interest, but I wouldn't do it unless I had a good idea of the date in addition to the location and ID.

Green Sea Turtles are occasional wanderers into San Diego County waters, but there's a permanent population in San Diego Bay near some industrial warm water outflow.

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Post by Fundad » January 13th, 2011, 3:56 pm

Unvouchered = worthless..

Next year in the California Contest your going to get a "county record" for anything found in a county that hasn't been recorded in the last 5 years....

Fundad

PS there are NO rat snakes in California.. :lol:

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 14th, 2011, 6:55 am

Riverside County has a lot of good data: 1863 entries for 86 different taxa. But it's also a very spread-out county, and certain herps are limited. Salamanders have been very poorly covered in the county, though the region of it that most species occupy is relatively small.


Herps in the database from Riverside County:

Garden Slender Salamander
Monterey Ensatina (only 3 entries)
Large-blotched Ensatina (only 1 entry, none since 1990)
Califonia Newt (only 3 vouchered entries)

California Chorus Frog
Baja California Chorus Frog
California Red-legged Frog (only 1 entry from 1993)
Southern Mountain Yellow-legged Frog (only 1 entry from 2005)
American Bullfrog
Rio Grande Leopard Frog (only 2 vouchered entries)
California Toad
Great Plains Toad
Arroyo Toad (only 1 entry from 2006)
Red-spotted Toad
Woodhouse's Toad (only 4 vouchered entries)
Western Spadefoot (only 4 vouchered entries)
Couch's Spadefoot (only 1 entry from 2004)

Western Pond Turtle (only 4 entries)
Red-eared Slider (only 1 entry)
Desert Tortoise (only 5 entries)

Legless Lizard
Orange-throated Whiptail
Coastal Whiptail
Great Basin Whiptail
Zebra-tail Lizard
San Diego Banded Gecko
Desert Banded Gecko
Mediterranean Gecko
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Gilbert's Skink
Western Skink
Mojave Black-collared Lizard (only one entry from 2007)
Baja Black-collared Lizard (only 3 entries)
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard (only 2 entries, none since 2007)
Banded Rock Lizard
Coast Horned Lizard
Flat-tailed Horned Lizard (only 2 entries)
Desert Horned Lizard
Desert Iguana
Chuckwalla
Yellow-backed Spiny Lizard (only 2 vouchered entries)
Purple-backed Spiny Lizard
Great Basin Fence Lizard
Granite Spiny Lizard
Southern Sagebrush Lizard (only 4 vouchered entries)
Coachella Valley Fringe-toed Lizard
Long-tailed Brush Lizard
Western Side-blotched Lizard
Northern Side-blotched Lizard
Granite Night Lizard
Desert Night Lizard

Southwestern Blind Snake (only 4 entries)
Southern Rubber Boa (only 1 entry from 2005)
Coastal Rosy Boa
Desert Rosy Boa
Mojave Shovelnose Snake
Spotted Leafnose Snake
San Bernardino Ringneck Snake
San Diego Ringneck Snake (only 1 entry from 2007)
San Diego Night Snake
Desert Night Snake
California Kingsnake
San Bernardino Mountain Kingsnake
Red Coachwhip
Striped Whipsnake
California Glossy Snake (only 1 entry)
Desert Glossy Snake
Mojave Glossy Snake (only 1 entry)
Sonoran Gogher Snake
San Diego Gopher Snake
Great Basin Gopher Snake (only 4 entries)
Longnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake (only 4 vouchered entries)
Desert Patchnose Snake (only 1 vouchered entry)
Mojave Patchnose Snke (only 1 vouchered entry)
Ground Snake (only 1 entry)
Smith's Blackhead Snake (only 1 entry)
Western Blackhead Snake
Two-lined Garter Snake
Sonoran Lyre Snake (only 1 entry from 2007)
Baja California Lyre Snake
Colorado Desert Sidewinder
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake
Western Diamondback Rattlesnake
Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake
Red Diamond Rattlesnake



Herps from Riverside that are NOT in the database:

Blackbelly Slender Salamander
Desert Slender Salamander
Arboreal Salamander

Lowland Leopard Frog (likely extirpated)
Colorado River Toad (likely extirpated)
Southern Leopard Frog (introduced)
African Clawed Frog (introduced)

Sonoran Mud Turtle (likely extirpated)
Texas Spiny Softshell (introduced)

Leaf-toed Gecko
Mojave Fringe-toed Lizard
Colorado River Tree Lizard
Gila Monster

Desert Blind Snake
Western Yellow-bellied Racer
San Diego Mountain Kingsnake (in Santa Anas)
Checkered Garter Snake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 18th, 2011, 7:21 am

Los Angeles County is another very well-represented county, with 1659 vouchered entries of 71 different taxa. The area that needs the most work is definitely the desert region above the mountains, especially the diurnal stuff and the northeast LA county stuff.

Herps from Los Angeles in the database:

Arboreal Salamander
Monterey Ensatina
San Gabriel Slender Salamander
Garden Slender Salamander
Blackbelly Slender Salamander
California Newt

California Chorus Frog
Baja California Chorus Frog
Southern Mountain Yellow-legged Frog
Bullfrog
Arroyo Toad (only 1 vouchered entry from 2003)
California Toad
Western Spadefoot (only 1 entry)
African Clawed Frog (only 2 vouchered entries)

Green Sea Turtle
Desert Tortoise (only 2 entries)
Western Pond Turtle
Red-eared Slider
Yellow-bellied Slider (likely releases)
Ouachita Map Turtle (2, likely release)
False Map Turtle (1 likely release)
Florida Softshell (1 likely release)
Smooth Softshell (1 likely release)
Texas Spiny Softshell (1 likely release)

California Legless Lizard
Desert Banded Gecko (only 2 entries, none since 2007)
Turkish House Gecko
Desert Night Lizard
Coastal Whiptail
Great Basin Whiptail (only 3 vouchered entries)
California Whiptail (only 1 integrade)
Great Basin Collared Lizard (only 1 vouchered entry, none since 2005)
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard (only 1 vouchered entry, none since 2008)
Coast Horned Lizard
Desert Horned Lizard (only 2 entries)
Yellow-backed Spiny Lizard (only 3 vouchered entries)
Great Basin Fence Lizard
Southern Sagebrush Lizard
Chuckwalla (only 1 entry, none since 2005)
Western Side-blotched Lizard
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Western Redtail Skink (only 3 entries)
Western Skink
Italian Wall Lizard

Southwestern Blind Snake (only 4 entries)
Brahminy Blind Snake
Coastal Rosy Boa
San Bernardino Ringneck Snake
Mojave Shovelnose Snake (only 1 entry from 2008)
San Diego Night Snake
Desert Night Snake (only 4 entries)
Western Black-headed Snake (only 4 entries)
Mojave Glossy Snake
California Glossy Snake (only 2 entries)
San Diego Gopher Snake
Great Basin Gopher Snake
California Kingsnake
San Bernardino Mountain Kingsnake
San Diego Mountain Kingsnake
Longnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake
Western Yellow-bellied Racer (only 2 vouchered entries)
Red Coachwhip
Striped Racer
Southern Water Snake
Two-lined Garter Snake
Baja California Lyre Snake
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake
Mojave Rattlesnake
Red Diamond Rattlesnake (only 1 entry)



Herps from Los Angeles that are NOT in the database:

California Red-legged Frog
Foothill Yellow-legged Frog (from when they used to be there)
Red-spotted Toad

Painted Turtle

San Diego Banded Gecko
Desert Iguana
Zebratail Lizard
Long-tailed Brush Lizard
Mojave Fringe-toed Lizard
Jackson's Chameleon (possibly in PV, unlikely)

Southern Rubber Boa
Desert Rosy Boa
Spotted Leafnose Snake
Mojave Patchnose Snake
California Red-sided Garter Snake
Mojave Desert Sidewinder
Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Brian Hubbs » January 18th, 2011, 10:33 pm

Funky: You forgot the Mtn King (L. zonata) in Modoc and Lassen counties...(see my book). :D I have them listed under the Sierra subspecies. I drew an arbitrary cut-off line, but I think the Sierra and St Helena should be merged.

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Post by FunkyRes » January 18th, 2011, 11:39 pm

Brian Hubbs wrote:Funky: You forgot the Mtn King (L. zonata) in Modoc and Lassen counties...(see my book). :D I have them listed under the Sierra subspecies. I drew an arbitrary cut-off line, but I think the Sierra and St Helena should be merged.
Added St. Helena to both.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Brian Hubbs » January 19th, 2011, 8:06 am

Jonathan: Are you saying that nobody has entered a sidewinder from L.A. county? :lol:

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Post by jonathan » January 19th, 2011, 6:43 pm

Brian Hubbs wrote:Jonathan: Are you saying that nobody has entered a sidewinder from L.A. county? :lol:
Yeah - the corner of LA County that would have the greatest chance of having sidewinders is poorly vouchered. I am unfamiliar with that region and have never herped it, so I can't tell you whether they're there or not.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 19th, 2011, 6:54 pm

San Bernardino County has 1051 records for 85 taxa (a few of which are in error), but it's also the biggest county in the lower 48, so it could certainly benefit from many more records. Without hexagonal mapping it’s hard to tell which areas of the county have and haven't been covered well, but the amphibians and everything aquatic could use a lot more work.

The following herps have been entered into the database for San Bernardino County:

San Gabriel Slender Salamander (only 1 record from 2006)
Blackbelly Slender Salamander (only 1 record)
Garden Slender Salamander
Monterey Ensatina
Arboreal Salamander (only 2 records)

California Chorus Frog
Pacific Chorus Frog
American Bullfrog (only 2 records)
California Toad
Arroyo Toad (only 1 record from 2008)
Woodhouse’s Toad
Red-spotted Toad (only 1 record from 2000)
Western Spadefoot Toad (only 2 records)
African Clawed Frog (only 1 record)

Southwestern Pond Turtle (only 2 records, none since 2007)
Red-eared Slider (only 3 records)
Desert Tortoise

Silvery Legless Lizard
Yucca Night Lizard
San Diego Banded Gecko (only 3 records)
Desert Banded Gecko
Mediterranean House Gecko (only 4 records)
Ringed Wall Gecko (only 2 records)
Orange-throated Whiptail (only 2 records)
Great Basin Whiptail
Great Basin Fence Lizard
Northern Sagebrush Lizard (only 1 record from 2006)
Yellow-backed Spiny Lizard
Southern Sagebrush Lizard
Granite Spiny Lizard (only 2 vouchered records)
Banded Rock Lizard (only 1 record from 2007)
Long-tailed Brush Lizard
Colorado River Tree Lizard (all from introduced population)
Western Side-blotched Lizard
Northern Side-blotched Lizard
Mojave Fringe-toed Lizard
Mojave Zebra-tail Lizard
Coast Horned Lizard
Desert Horned Lizard
Mojave Black-collared Lizard
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard
Desert Iguana
Chuckwalla
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Western Redtail Skink
Western Skink
Gila Monster (only 2 records, none since 1982)

Southern Rubber Boa
Desert Rosy Boa
Coastal Rosy Boa
Southwestern Blind Snake (only 1 record)
Western Blackhead Snake (only 1 record from 2006)
Mojave Shovelnose Snake
Ground Snake (only 2 records)
San Bernardino Ringneck Snake
Spotted Leafnose Snake
Desert Night Snake (only 3 records)
San Diego Night Snake (only 1 record from 2006)
Collar Night Snake (only 2 records, taxonomy issue?)
Mojave Glossy Snake
Desert Glossy Snake
San Diego Gopher Snake
Great Basin Gopher Snake
Sonoran Gopher Snake (only 2 records, misID?)
Longnose Snake
California Kingsnake
San Bernardino Mountain Kingsnake
Baja California Lyre Snake
Big Bend Patchnose Snake (mistake in entry?)
Mojave Patchnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake
Desert Patchnose Snake (only 3 records)
Red Coachwhip
Striped Racer
Mountain Garter Snake (only 1 record)
Two-lined Garter Snake
California Red-sided Garter Snake (only 1 record from 2007)
Western Diamondback Rattlesnake
Mojave Desert Sidewinder
Colorado Desert Sidewinder (are those correct IDs?)
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake
Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake
Panamint Rattlesnake (only 1 record from 2008)
Red Diamond Rattlesnake (only 4 records)
Mohave Rattlesnake




The following herps have NOT been entered for San Bernardino County:

California Newt
Tiger Salamanders (introduced anywhere?)

Mountain Yellow-legged Frog (perhaps only in a single site now)
Leopard Frogs (introduced anywhere?)
Great Plains Toad
Couch’s Spadefoot Toad

Softshell Turtles (introduced anywhere?)
Painted Turtles (introduced anywhere?)
Snapping Turtles (introduced anywhere?)

Granite Night Lizard (do they get this far north?)
Barred Spiny Lizard
Flat-tailed Horned Lizard (don’t know if they get that far north)

Striped Whipsnake
Southwestern (Smith’s) Blackhead Snake
Regal Ringneck Snake
Nevada Shovelnose Snake (possibly doesn’t get into SB county)
Western Yellow-bellied Racer

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 21st, 2011, 7:29 am

Kern County is a fantastic meeting point of many different habitats, and it's surprising that there isn't more herp data recorded from there. Many of the species that have been recorded in the county only have entries from 1 or 2 people, so the spread of data through the country is probably poor. At this point the database has 578 vouchered records from Kern County of 72 different taxa, with many species (especially snakes) still unrecorded.


DATABASE ENTRIES FOR KERN COUNTY

Blackbelly Slender Salamander
Gregarious Slender Salamander
Relictual Slender Salamander (only 2 records)
Kern Plateau Slender Salamander (only 1 record)
Kern Canyon Slender Salamander (only 1 record)
Tehachapi Slender Salamander (only 3 records)
Yellow-blotched Ensatina
Sierra Nevada Ensatina
Blotched Tiger Salamander (only 1 vouchered record from 2006)
Coast Range Newt (only 4 records)
Sierra Newt (only 2 records, mis-ID?)

Baja California Chorus Frog
Sierran Chorus Frog (only 2 vouchered records)
American Bullfrog (only 1 vouchered record)
California Toad
Western Spadefoot (only 3 records)

Texas Spiny Softshell (only 2 records)
Desert Tortoise (only 3 records)

California Legless Lizard (only one record from 2006)
California Whiptail (only 2 vouchered records)
Great Basin Whiptail
Zebra-tail Lizard
Desert Banded Gecko
Mojave Black-collared Lizard
Desert Iguana (only 3 vouchered records)
Sierra Alligator Lizard (only 1 record)
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Western Skink (only 2 records)
Greater Brown Skink (only 3 records)
Western Redtail Skink
Bluntnose Leopard Lizard (only 3 records)
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard
Coast Horned Lizard (only 1 record from 2007)
Desert Horned Lizard
Chuckwalla
Western Sagebrush Lizard (only 2 vouchered records)
Purple-backed Spiny Lizard (only 2 records - taxonomic confusion?)
Yellow-backed Spiny Lizard
Great Basin Fence Lizard
San Joaquin Fence Lizard
Coast Range Fence Lizard (mis-ID?)
Western Side-blotched Lizard
Northern Side-blotched Lizard (only 1 vouchered record)
Desert Night Lizard
Sierra Night Lizard (only 2 vouchered records)

Northern Rubber Boa
Desert Rosy Boa
Mojave Glossy Snake
Mojave Shovelnose Snake
Ringneck Snake
Coralbelly Ringneck Snake
Desert Night Snake
California Night Snake (only 2 records, none since 2002)
California Kingsnake
Sierra Mountain Kingsnake
Western Yellow-Bellied Racer (only 3 records, none since 2004)
Red Coachwhip
Striped Racer
Spotted Leafnose Snake
San Diego Gopher Snake
Pacific Gopher Snake
Great Basin Gopher Snake
Longnose Snake
Mojave Patchnose Snake (only 3 records)
Western Aquatic (Sierra) Garter Snake
Wandering Garter Snake (only 2 vouchered records)
Baja California Lyre Snake (only 1 record)
Mojave Desert Sidewinder
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake
Northern Pacific Rattlesnake
Panamint Rattlesnake (only 2 records)
Mojave Rattlesnake



Herps in Kern that AREN'T in the database

Monterey Ensatina
Breckenridge Mountain Slender Salamander (not fully described yet)
Fairview Slender Salamander (not fully described yet)

California Chorus Frog
California Red-legged Frog (historic population)
Foothill Yellow-legged Frog (historic population)
Southern Mountain Yellow-legged Frog (historic population)
Arroyo Toad
Red-spotted Toad
African Clawed Frog (introduced?)

Western Pond Turtle

California Alligator Lizard
Long-tailed Brush Lizard
Mojave Fringe-toed Lizard

Southwestern Blind Snake
Ground Snake
California Glossy Snake
Monterey Ringneck Snake
San Joaquin Coachwhip
Coast Patchnose Snake
Smith's Black-headed Snake
Western Black-headed Snake
Diablo Range Garter Snake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by rpecora » January 21st, 2011, 12:44 pm

Why no barfoot gecko in RC?

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 21st, 2011, 4:21 pm

rpecora wrote:Why no barfoot gecko in RC?
If you're asking me why I didn't list it, it's because no one has recorded one in the database, I've never heard anyone mention that they might get into RC (or really anywhere north of the Borrego Springs vicinity), and because Californiaherps.com lists their range as not getting into RC. If you're asking me why they aren't found in RC, I don't have enough experience with that border to tell you.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 22nd, 2011, 11:50 am

Ventura County is right next to LA County but has a somewhat more limited range of habitats and does not get nearly as much herping activity. As a result, more data is needed for pretty much everything. So far the database has 252 vouchered records of 39 taxa from Ventura County.


HERPS VOUCHERED FOR VENTURA COUNTY

Blackbelly Slender Salamander
Monterey Ensatina (only 2 records)
Yellow-blotched Ensatina (only 1 record from 2004)
Arboreal Salamander (only 1 record from 2008)
California Newt (only 1 record from 2004)

Baja California Chorus Frog
California Chorus Frog
American Bullfrog (only 1 record from 2008)
California Red-legged Frog (only 1 record from 1982)
California Toad
Arroyo Toad (only 1 record from 2008)
Western Spadefoot (only 1 record)

Western Pond Turtle (only 3 records)

California Legless Lizard (only 1 record)
San Diego Alligator Lizard
Western Redtail Skink (only 1 record)
Western Skink (only 3 vouchered records)
Coast Horned Lizard
Western Sagebrush Lizard (only 4 records)
Coast Range Fence Lizard
Great Basin Fence Lizard
Western Side-blotched Lizard
California Whiptail

Northern Rubber Boa (only 1 record)
San Bernardino Ringneck Snake (only 1 record)
Monterey Ringneck Snake (only 4 records)
San Diego Night Snake (only 3 records)
California Night Snake (only 1 record)
California Kingsnake
Coast Mountain Kingsnake (only 2 records, none since 2004)
San Diego Mountain Kingsnake (only 1 vouchered record from 2002)
Longnose Snake (only 1 record)
San Diego Gopher Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake (only 1 record)
Western Yellow-bellied Racer (only 2 vouchered records)
Sriped Racer (only 2 records)
Red Coachwhip
Two-striped Garter Snake
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake


HERPS THAT ARE NOT YET VOUCHERED FOR VENTURA COUNTY

Foothill Yellow-legged Frog (historic range)
African Clawed Frog (introduced?)

Snapping Turtle (introduced?)
Red-eared Slider (introduced)
Painted Turtle (introduced?)

Banded Gecko?
Zebratail Lizard?
Long-nosed Leopard Lizard?
Great Basin Collared Lizard?
Desert Spiny Lizard
Coastal Whiptail (southern part of county)
Yucca Night Lizard

Blind Snake
California Glossy Snake
Western Black-headed Snake
Diablo Range Garter Snake?
California Red-sided Garter Snake
Baja California Lyre Snake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by FunkyRes » January 23rd, 2011, 4:14 am

I'm not at home right now, but one of these nights I will try to do Alameda and Siskiyou Counties.

Eventually when all counties are done, I may make a web page (*maybe* ask Don to host it??) with all counties in alphabetical order, and every 3 months check each county for new records of missing herps. Kind of a vacation planning page for those looking for county record fame and glory ;)

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by rpecora » January 23rd, 2011, 1:38 pm

jonathan wrote:
rpecora wrote:Why no barfoot gecko in RC?
If you're asking me why I didn't list it, it's because no one has recorded one in the database, I've never heard anyone mention that they might get into RC (or really anywhere north of the Borrego Springs vicinity), and because Californiaherps.com lists their range as not getting into RC. If you're asking me why they aren't found in RC, I don't have enough experience with that border to tell you.
I was commenting on them not being in the data base section of your list as opposed to them being in the recorded in the database section. I think it's reasonable to believe that they do occur in RC. Anyway, I guess I got hung up on the SD county list where you stated "Herps that may be in San Diego County..." and figured you were being consistent with the rest of the counties that followed, but re-reading I see you changed the lists titles so I don't know what your really trying to convey now.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 23rd, 2011, 5:53 pm

rpecora wrote:
jonathan wrote:
rpecora wrote:Why no barfoot gecko in RC?
If you're asking me why I didn't list it, it's because no one has recorded one in the database, I've never heard anyone mention that they might get into RC (or really anywhere north of the Borrego Springs vicinity), and because Californiaherps.com lists their range as not getting into RC. If you're asking me why they aren't found in RC, I don't have enough experience with that border to tell you.
I was commenting on them not being in the data base section of your list as opposed to them being in the recorded in the database section. I think it's reasonable to believe that they do occur in RC. Anyway, I guess I got hung up on the SD county list where you stated "Herps that may be in San Diego County..." and figured you were being consistent with the rest of the counties that followed, but re-reading I see you changed the lists titles so I don't know what your really trying to convey now.

I'm basically trying to convey the same thing. I wrote those lists back in 2009 and am hardly paying attention to what they're titled (though I noticed it was inconsistent), but I'm definitely trying to state what herps "may be in" each one. I just wasn't aware that anyone thought switaki may be in Riverside.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by hellihooks » January 23rd, 2011, 6:37 pm

Well Jonathan, we got Berdo ruber, B.m.m., and Orcutti. By the Coptic church... :thumb: Should be entered tonight or tomorrow... jim

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Post by jonathan » January 24th, 2011, 8:41 am

hellihooks wrote:Well Jonathan, we got Berdo ruber, B.m.m., and Orcutti. By the Coptic church... :thumb: Should be entered tonight or tomorrow... jim
Nicely done....though most of the ruber and S. orcutti records the database does have for SB County (along with the orange-throated and coastal whiptails) are probably from right by that coptic church already. :lol: You and I should know because we put them there! Getting B.m. major there too though is really nice. I'm sure there's more stuff too if we hit it at the right time - I always seem to get there a little too late in the season.

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Post by hellihooks » January 24th, 2011, 10:28 am

Yeah... beldings OT and abbotti... :thumb: was hoping for the years first rosafucia... but fundad got ALL the 1st of the year possible stuff from there.. :shock: haven't checked for OT or abotti... but... :roll: jim

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 26th, 2011, 12:01 am

Santa Barabara County is out of the way for most herpers and as a result gets little herping activity, despite the presence of a number of species not found elsewhere in southern California. There are only 109 records for 32 taxa recorded in the database from Santa Barbara County. More data is needed for everything.


HERPS VOUCHERED FOR SANTA BARBARA COUNTY

Blackbelly Slender Salamander (only 4 records)
Channel Islands Slender Salamander (only 2 records)
Monterey Ensatina (only 3 records)
Arboreal Salamander (only 2 records)
California Tiger Salamander (only 1 record)
Coast Range Newt (only 1 vouchered record, none since 2006)

Baja California Chorus Frog
California Chorus Frog (only 3 records)
California Red-legged Frog (only 4 records)
California Toad (only 4 records)
Western Spadefoot (only 2 records)

Western Pond Turtle (only 2 vouchered records)
Red-eared Slider (only 2 records)

California Legless Lizard (only 1 record from 1985)
San Clemente Night Lizard (only 2 records)
California Alligator Lizard
Western Skink (only 2 records, none since 2008)
Coast Horned Lizard (only 1 record from 2004)
Coast Range Fence Lizard
Island Fence Lizard (only 2 records)
Great Basin Fence Lizard (only 1 record – misID?)
Western Side-blotched Lizard

Monterey Ringneck Snake (only 2 records)
California Kingsnake
Coast Mountain Kingsnake (only 1 record from 2006)
San Diego Gopher Snake
Striped Racer (only 1 record from 2003)
Coast Garter Snake (only 4 records, none since 2008)
Two-striped Garter Snake (only 1 record from 2003)
Valley Garter Snake (only 1 record from 2004)
California Red-sided Garter Snake (only 1 record from 2004)
Southern Pacific Rattlesnake (only 1 record from 2005)



HERPS THAT ARE NOT YET VOUCHERED FOR SANTA BARBARA COUNTY

Barred Tiger Salamander (introduced)

Foothill Yellow-legged Frog (historic population)
American Bullfrog (introduced)
Arroyo Toad
African Clawed Frog (introduced?)

Snapping Turtle (introduced?)
Painted Turtle (introduced)

Western Sagebrush Lizard
Desert Spiny Lizard
Western Redtail Skink
California Whiptail
San Nicolas Night Lizard
Yucca Night Lizard

Blind Snake
California Night Snake
San Diego Night Snake
Western Yellow-bellied Racer
Red Coachwhip
Santa Cruz Gopher Snake
Pacific Gopher Snake?
Longnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake
Western Black-headed Snake
Diablo Range Garter Snake?
Baja California Lyre Snake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Mike Waters » January 26th, 2011, 5:08 am

Jonathan, where can I find a list of species not vouchered in Kern county

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Post by jonathan » January 26th, 2011, 6:00 am

Mike Waters wrote:Jonathan, where can I find a list of species not vouchered in Kern county
My list is on the first page of this thread, second post from the bottom.

If you want a really complete list, go here:

http://www.nafha.org/california-chapter ... -by-county

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » January 27th, 2011, 11:02 am

Like Santa Barbara County, San Luis Obispo County is poorly covered in the database, despite the presence of a number of interesting habitats (over 20 taxa in SLO County are not found in LA/Riverside/SD Counties). Right now the database only has 113 vouchered entries for 30 taxa. More data is needed for everything.


HERPS VOUCHERED FOR SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY

San Simeon Slender Salamander (only 1 record)
Blackbelly Slender Salamander
Monterey Ensatina (only 3 records)
Coast Range Newt (only 1 record from 2008)

Baja California Chorus Frog (only 2 records, none since 2008)
Sierran Chorus Frog (only 1 vouchered record)
California Red-legged Frog (only 2 records)
California Toad (only 4 records)
Western Spadefoot (all records from same day)

Painted Turtle (only 1 record from 1977)

California Legless Lizard (only 1 record from 1985)
California Alligator Lizard
Bluntnose Leopard Lizard
Coast Horned Lizard (only 2 records)
Coast Range Fence Lizard
Western Side-blotched Lizard (only 4 vouchered records)
California Whiptail (Only 1 vouchered record from 2005)
Western Skink (only 2 records)

Northern Rubber Boa (only 1 record)
Monterey Ringneck Snake (only 1 record from 2008)
California Night Snake (only 1 record from 2006)
Pacific Gopher Snake
California Kingsnake
Western Yellow-bellied Racer (only 1 vouchered record)
Striped Racer (only 1 record from 2007)
San Joaquin Coachwhip (only 1 record from 2007)
Diablo Range Garter Snake (only 1 record from 1981)
Two-striped Garter Snake (only 1 record from 2007)
Valley Garter Snake (only 1 record from 1995)
Northern Pacific Rattlesnake



HERPS THAT ARE NOT YET VOUCHERED FOR SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTIES

California Tiger Salamander
Barred Tiger Salamander
Gabilan Mountains Slender Salamander
Lesser Slender Salamander

Foothill Yellow-legged Frog (historic population)
American Bullfrog (introduced)
Arroyo Toad

Snapping Turtle (introduced?)
Red-eared Slider (introduced?)
Western Pond Turtle

Desert Spiny Lizard
Western Sagebrush Lizard?
Gilbert's Skink
Yucca Night Lizard
Jackson's Chameleon (introduced)

Blind Snake?
California Glossy Snake
Sharp-tailed Snake
Coast Mountain Kingsnake
San Diego Gopher Snake
Longnose Snake
Coast Patchnose Snake
Western Black-headed Snake
Coast Garter Snake

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Natalie McNear » February 14th, 2011, 11:53 am

I think all species present in Marin County have been vouchered since I found Rana boylii a few days ago. Here are all the species I believe are present, if anyone has any additions I'd love to hear about them.

California Giant Salamander
Arboreal Salamander
California Slender Salamander
Yellow-eyed Ensatina
Rough-skinned Newt
Coast Range Newt

California Toad
Sierran Treefrog
American Bullfrog
California Red-legged Frog
Foothill Yellow-legged Frog

Western Pond Turtle
Red-eared Slider

San Francisco Alligator Lizard
California Alligator Lizard
Coast Range Fence Lizard
Western Skink

Rubber Boa
Western Yellow-bellied Racer
Common Sharp-tailed Snake
Pacific Ringneck Snake
California Kingsnake
Pacific Gophersnake
Aquatic Gartersnake
Coast Gartersnake
California Red-sided Gartersnake
Northern Pacific Rattlesnake

Marin County probably has the lowest herp diversity in the Bay Area, after San Francisco of course. :(

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Post by Hornemadness » February 14th, 2011, 3:22 pm

There are lots of herps for the various counties that have been listed that I've seen on more than one occasion (green sea turtles in San Diego and California newts in San Bernadino county just to name two). I just don't really like carrying a camera with me when i go herping. I don't know if ill catch a lot of flack because of it, but if you drop tongs or a hook in water or step on them they will survive, cameras don't. Also like Fundad said, unvouchered entries are worthless.

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by FunkyRes » February 15th, 2011, 3:01 am

Doesn't Marin also have Speckled Black Salamanders?

Congrats on the R boylii!

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Looks like Nope on Speckled Black in Marin County (Stebbins 1959 San Francisco Bay Region guide, pg 64)

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » February 15th, 2011, 3:20 am

That would be incredible if we've managed to voucher every single herp species in a county!

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by FunkyRes » February 15th, 2011, 5:10 am

MVZ herps for Marin County we do not have vouchered:

Dermochelys coriacea - Leatherback Turtle (2 specimens, early 90s)

The server became unresponsive at Dicamptodon, so I'll have to finish checking later.
I guess we need to keep a look out on the beach for washed up dead Sea Turtles ;)

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Natalie McNear » February 15th, 2011, 1:30 pm

FunkyRes wrote:Doesn't Marin also have Speckled Black Salamanders?

Congrats on the R boylii!

EDIT:
Looks like Nope on Speckled Black in Marin County (Stebbins 1959 San Francisco Bay Region guide, pg 64)
Speckled Black Salamanders fall into a particularly frustrating (to me) category of herps that could very well live in Marin County, but don't for whatever reason. The terrain in this tiny area is probably some of the most variable of any county in California, containing coastal chaparral, mountain chaparral, ancient redwood forests, rocky pine forests, oak woodlands, grasslands, wetlands - you name it we probably have it - but a lot species are strangely absent from the region.

The ones I can think of off the top of my head, in addition to the Speckled Black Salamander, are the Northwestern Salamander, California Tiger Salamander, Red-bellied Newt, California Legless Lizard, Side-blotched Lizard, California Whiptail, Forest Sharp-tailed Snake, California Mountain Kingsnake, and the Striped Racer. All of these species would have suitable habitat here, but for some reason they are absent. The fact that the montane habitats are separated from those in the rest of the Bay Area by water and the lowlands of southern Sonoma County probably has something to do with it for some species, but not for several others.

I don't think I'll be finding a Leatherback Sea Turtle any time soon around here. :lol:

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Post by monklet » February 15th, 2011, 1:42 pm

I just added Santa Cruz Island Gopher Snake to Santa Barbara county. The record is not mine but from a friend who is a naturalist guide for Island Packers. Interesting photos showing aberrant pattern and eating of a deer mouse, which I believe was already dead. The snake was photographed in situ with not staging of the mouse etc.

http://www.naherp.com/viewrecord.php?r_id=63957

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Post by hellihooks » February 15th, 2011, 2:59 pm

Hornemadness wrote: California newts in San Bernadino county
that is VERY interesting. In the south facing foothills of the Berdoos? I've been herping those foothills/canyons for 35 yrs and have never seen one... :shock: jim

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » September 4th, 2011, 3:35 pm

Hey - any more northern counties to add to this thread?

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by JAMAUGHN » September 4th, 2011, 5:56 pm

Here's Santa Cruz County:

Herps vouchered in the database:


Snakes:
Charina bottae - Northern Rubber Boa
Coluber constrictor mormon -Western Yellow-bellied Racer
Coluber lateralis lateralis -California Striped Racer
Contia longicaudae -Forest Sharp-tailed Snake*
Contia tenuis - Sharptailed Snake**
Crotalus oreganus oreganus -Northern Pacific Rattlesnake
Diadophis punctatus amabilis -Pacific Ring-necked Snake
Lampropeltis zonata -California Mountain Kingsnake
Pituophis catenifer catenifer -Pacific Gopher Snake
Thamnophis atratus atratus -Santa Cruz Gartersnake
Thamnophis elegans terrestris -Coast Gartersnake
* Three are filed in the database as C. tenuis, but IDed as C. Longicaudae in the notes
**Actually a C. tenuis

Lizards:
Aspidoscelis tigris munda -California Whiptail
Elgaria coerulea coerulea -San Francisco Alligator Lizard
Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata -California Alligator Lizard
Plestiodon skiltonianus skiltonianus -Western Skink
Sceloporus occidentalis bocourtii -Coast Range Fence Lizard
Sceloporus occidentalis occidentalis -NorthWestern Fence Lizard**
Uta stansburiana elegans -Western Side-blotched Lizard**
* *seems out of range to me, but there’s one entry

Turtles:
Actinemys marmorata -Western Pond Turtle
Dermochelys coriacea -Leatherback Sea Turtle (In the bay, obviously)
Trachemys scripta elegans -Red-eared Slider

Salamanders:
Ambystoma macrodactylum croceum -Santa Cruz Long-toed Salamander
Ambystoma californiense - California Tiger Salamander (voucherless entries)
Aneides flavipunctatus niger -Santa Cruz Black Salamander
Aneides lugubris -Arboreal Salamander
Batrachoseps attenuatus -California Slender Salamander
Batrachoseps gavilanensis -Gabilan Mountains Slender Salamander
Dicamptodon ensatus -California Giant Salamander
Ensatina eschscholtzii eschscholtzii -Monterey Ensatina
Ensatina eschscholtzii xanthoptica -Yellow-eyed Ensatina
Taricha granulosa -Rough-skinned Newt
Taricha torosa torosa -Coast Range Newt

Frogs and Toads:
Lithobates catesbeianus -American Bullfrog
Pseudacris sierra -Sierran Treefrog
Rana draytonii -California Red-legged Frog


Expected in SC County, (according to G. Nafis's range maps) but absent from the database so far:

Hypsiglena torquata nuchalata - California Nightsnake
Lampropeltis getula californiae - California Kingsnake (Hope springs eternal...)
Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis - California Red-sided Gartersnake

Anniella pulchra - California Legless Lizard
Phrynosoma blainvillii - Blainville's Horned Lizard
Sceloporus graciosus gracilis - Western Sagebrush Lizard (Possibly- it gets close to the SC border in Santa Clara Co.)

Anaxyrus boreas halophilus - California Toad
Rana boylii - Foothill Yellow-legged Frog
Spea hammondii - Western Spadefoot

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by jonathan » September 5th, 2011, 3:04 pm

There's an odd little introduced population of side-blotched in Santa Cruz county.

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Post by JAMAUGHN » September 5th, 2011, 9:44 pm

I know better than to ask where, but there's a little voice in the back of my head saying "where?".

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Re: Species gaps by County

Post by Chad M. Lane » September 5th, 2011, 10:05 pm

There's an odd little introduced population of side-blotched in Santa Cruz county.
Is it truly introduced? I've heard mixed story's? I've found them in two locations in Santa Cruz Co.



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