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In the 2nd picture of the snakes inside the membrane, there's an individual who's stretched out along the bottom and has his head curled underneath his body and out of sight. In the 3rd and 4th pic, his head is visible. That one was aggressively crawling around in there, looking for a way out. I wish I would have filmed it, but there was a lot going on all at once and I felt like I had limited time. He was the one who eventually poked through in the video. I was hesitant to remove them from the amniotic sack (if that's what it's called?) at first and instead tried to coax them to do it themselves. When I wasn't holding a camera or my cellphone for video, I was gently unraveling the sack and delicately examining & extracting. The coiled up individual in the 1st picture of the membrane, I removed myself from what looked like a 2nd chamber or pocket of the sack. As you can see he was covered in fluid and just sat there awhile * adjusting to the new environment. He lived along with the other one who finally poked himself through in the video. I finally ended up pinching a hole in the sack to extract the others. When I did, the first one out gasped for air and it looked like it's lungs collapsed. The whole extent of the upper half body caved in to the ribcage. I think he was either underdeveloped or maybe the shock of being removed caused it... He may have been damaged when the mother was run over as well. My guess is it was because of the transfer from liquid to oxygen too quickly. The other one I removed didn't have that reaction, but it didn't look to have survived either. It fell limp when I picked it up and it never moved. However, I still put that one over in the grass and covered in with a little canopy of dried weeds just in case it woke up later on*mtratcliffe wrote:Were the ones in the membrane still alive?
Thanks manJohn Martin wrote:In-frigging-credible! Great job man!!
Thanks JohnJohn Delgado wrote:That is OUT-FREAKING-STANDING Porter ...!!!
Congratulations ... you are a DADDY ...!
That little Garter you helped breath life into was looking up to you ... you were his/her source of inspiration to PUSH ON THROUGH a terrible life disaster ...!
And now if I'm not mistaken I do believe you owe us some fine cigars and a cold one Sir
Thanks, Kelly. I hope So! That would be radKelly Mc wrote:Great Job Porter! Haha youve inspired herpers from now on to cut open gravid looking female DORs.
Hey - its ok to tear those sacs open - the sooner the better. Once cut off from the mother's blood oxygen it could be the only chance they have if they get too weak from depletion to get out themselves. Even weak ones can make it if they breathe and dont get too warm.
I swear this post is going to change certain encounters.
Cut open dead egg layers too. Do It.
Pat, are you suggesting that there were fully developed embryos inside the female ringneck snake? Ringnecks are oviparous. I am not aware of any cases of ovoviviparity documented in this species. If these were fully developed neonates inside the mother that would be a rather interesting find. I'm assuming you found eggs and managed to get them to successfully hatch, but I just wanted to double check. Can you give a bit more info?Misenus wrote:Nice work. I had a similar situation a couple years ago, but unfortunately, it was caused by me. I was mowing the lawn and nicked a gravid Northern Ringneck Snake, cutting her almost in half. I noticed movement inside, and finished the job with a pocket knife.
Ronquillo08 wrote:I know I am Late on this one but the was some awesome stuff. B/Z
Thanks ✌daniel wrote:That's one of the coolest things I've ever seen Porter. Good on you!
Ross Padilla wrote:This is amazing! Good job, Porter.
Muchas gracias amigosCalfirecap wrote:Well done Porter! Not just the save, but the documentation as well.