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Post by hellihooks » July 4th, 2015, 5:54 am

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I say Sierra... other's think Baja.

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Re: frog in bag of salad

Post by kingsnakeadam » July 6th, 2015, 7:38 pm

It's a frog Jim....... just a frog.............

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Post by hellihooks » July 7th, 2015, 5:07 am

kingsnakeadam wrote:It's a frog Jim....... just a frog.............
spoken like a true 'citizen scientist'... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by kingsnakeadam » July 7th, 2015, 10:32 am

Hahaha ....... I give very detailed descriptions. Lol

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Post by soulsurvivor » July 7th, 2015, 2:42 pm

It makes me think of the Sierran tree frogs I saw occasionally in Placer County. Who knows where it came from?! Ask Costco where they harvest their lettuce. :)

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Post by hellihooks » July 7th, 2015, 4:52 pm

gotta be from the Central Valley... baja's only go up to about the 99 /46, in Kern Co (i may have the range extension for them) anywhere north of that would be Sierra's... so... chances are Sierra. overall gestalt says sierra, to me, as well. :) they kept him as a pet, and he's doing fine... :lol: :lol: :lol: I said name him 'Crew (ton)' :crazyeyes:

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Post by Porter » July 7th, 2015, 7:37 pm

This is funny...lol I was actually wondering earlier this year if frogs ever get caught in the heads of lettuce when being packaged on the small farms and crop fields. I've noticed earthworms crawling across restaurant walk-ins coming from these boxes... Lol I'm wondering if this guy actually bought organic lettuce there's more of a possibility that way... although the big companies do ship heads of lettuce in wax boxes with holes in the bottom which a frog or worm can easily crawl into after packaging, non organic companies.the crop fields where the gigas roam are doing pretty good as far as Sierran tree frogs. although still pretty patchy from what I'm gathering... I only hear them croaking in certain areas of the fields where water is close to the road and probably holds up well enough for metamorphose. I headed out recently on warm Thunderstorm night that got about 15 minutes of heavy downpour. I didn't see much as far as snakes just one gopher snake who became a dor before I made it back to him and I quickly called it a night when a quarter mile stretch of the road I was focused on became crawling with a hundred to a hundred and fifty little froggies, once the rain had stopped. driving that stretch at 2 miles per hour and Steering left to right side of the lanes,was not something I wanted to repeat as I drove up and down the road Lol pretty cool to see. there was a cloud of flying bugs through that stretch so they were feasting pretty good that night. here's a video of the thunderstorm before it got dark...


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Post by hellihooks » July 8th, 2015, 4:55 am

yes... it was found in a bag of organic salad... I KNOW you're up in sierra range Richard... do you know if that's where most lettuce is grown in the Central valley?

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Post by JAMAUGHN » July 8th, 2015, 8:47 am

A lot of lettuce production comes from the Salinas Valley, which is in Sierran range.

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Post by hellihooks » July 8th, 2015, 12:43 pm

Thx Jim... been talking to Kern residents, trying to figure out how much (if any) lettuce is grown there, trying to establish a positive ID. Working 2 jobs I haven't had time to herp, or even get data from HDWG submitted... but this would be one for the books... :crazyeyes:

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Post by Brian Hubbs » July 8th, 2015, 1:59 pm

According to Sam Sweet, the paper that split the Pacific Treefrog into 3 species is bunk. It's a Pacific Treefrog and you can't tell the difference between any of them. They come in all kinds of colors and actually change color like chameleons...

But, as an aside, I think I'll buy my salad items separately and make my own from now on... :shock:

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Post by kingsnakeadam » July 8th, 2015, 9:08 pm

See I told you it was a frog.......

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Post by AndyO'Connor » July 9th, 2015, 1:32 pm

What Brian said. If you took a baja, sierra, and pacific, and threw them all together, you wouldn't be able to dicern a difference, the males all sound the same, and the females of each would go with whatever male (based on the normal selection reasons they use)

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Post by hellihooks » July 9th, 2015, 3:55 pm

AndyO'Connor wrote:What Brian said. If you took a baja, sierra, and pacific, and threw them all together, you wouldn't be able to dicern a difference, the males all sound the same, and the females of each would go with whatever male (based on the normal selection reasons they use)
i knew this going in... although I'd have to say a higher percentage of Sierra's I've seen tend to be uni-color, rather than reticulated. :thumb:

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Post by Porter » July 11th, 2015, 6:24 pm

Jim, I should know...but, I don't lol I'll ask and get back to ya

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Post by Porter » July 20th, 2015, 4:27 am

Sorry f2f or the late response, Jim. I've been busy and it slipped my mind. I couldn't get any other solid answer other than my own which is... organic growers are independent and can root up anywhere . So any suitable farming ground is game . They usually take what they grow to a manufacture that packages the produce for them. So, the way you could go about IDing the frog is to find out where the salad was packaged and grown. However, if both are on opposite sides of a certain range...the mystery of the frog coming from the farm or manufacturers will remain to be unsolved....

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Post by hellihooks » July 20th, 2015, 6:20 am

thx Richard...
I still think it's a safe bet, and far more likely that the produce came from somewhere in the Sierra range, rather than from the immeadiate Bakersfield area... :thumb:

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Re: frog in bag of salad

Post by Porter » July 29th, 2015, 7:32 am

Jim, thought you might get a kick outta this... :shock:

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Post by ricrabt » August 2nd, 2015, 10:16 pm

Years ago I got a call from a Gelsons market asking me to come and remove an alligator lizard from the lettuce bin. I guess that alli was trying to go vegan. ...next thing ya know you'll be hearing about allis wanting to fly, cuz they're already "in the air"...OGR Jim!!!

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Post by hellihooks » August 3rd, 2015, 11:50 am

ricrabt wrote:...next thing ya know you'll be hearing about allis wanting to fly, cuz they're already "in the air"...OGR Jim!!!
that's only up in Ventura... OGR

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Post by Brian Hubbs » August 3rd, 2015, 1:28 pm

Hey Jim, why do gopher snakes imitate rattlers?

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Post by hellihooks » August 3rd, 2015, 4:02 pm

Brian Hubbs wrote:Hey Jim, why do gopher snakes imitate rattlers?
out of spite... for rattlers imitating their hissing... cause ya know... rattlers want people to think they're gophers... :crazyeyes:

see how stupid it sounds when ya flip da script... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Brian Hubbs » August 3rd, 2015, 7:08 pm

Hey Jim, Why do you park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?

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Post by hellihooks » August 4th, 2015, 5:52 am

Brian Hubbs wrote:Hey Jim, Why do you park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?
cause someone screwed up the numbers on the curb??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Porter » August 5th, 2015, 2:23 pm

Ok, so no one gets the joke or thinks it's even slightly humorous that there's a frog being used as an icon for organics considering what's already been said... dannnng. Tough crowd....

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Post by Porter » August 5th, 2015, 2:24 pm

Frog in salad = Amphibious certification of approval :thumb:

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Post by hellihooks » August 6th, 2015, 5:48 am

A western toad was recently found in a bag of salad at a Sam's Club. i saw the humor Richard... just didn't get around to commenting... ;)

Frog update... the people who found him have spent a buttload of $ making him a big plush enclousure... named him 'Lucky' they felt so bad about him being alone... I went ahead and directed them to where they could find bajas and they went out and caught a couple of 'buddies' for him... so... Maybe Lucky will get lucky, and get lucky... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: frog in bag of salad

Post by Porter » August 6th, 2015, 4:41 pm

Words out... amphibians are now the salad crackerjack toy of healthy consumers :o

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