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- Calfirecap
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Looks like the Bay Area is receiving its first good rain for the season right now. And it's supposed to keep raining off and on through Sunday. I am happy for your guys up there
Not to put too much pressure on you guys, but we down here in the high and dry South want to see some results here - pictures, good ones and lots of them - on Monday, OK
Go get them 'manders!
Robert
Not to put too much pressure on you guys, but we down here in the high and dry South want to see some results here - pictures, good ones and lots of them - on Monday, OK
Go get them 'manders!
Robert
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Our storm was better for the period 24hrs ago (.9"); in the last 24hrs, .17". It's wet, but not to the point of creating vernal pond runoff. Now north of the bay is getting hit with this storm, so Marin/Napa/Sonoma folks should have some good critters. We need another 2" to entice the Ambystoma out of their holes.
2/7 4:00PM update .25"
2/7 4:30PM ... .30"
2/8 10:00AM last 24hrs... .61"
2/8 5:20PM last 24hrs... .28"
2/7 4:00PM update .25"
2/7 4:30PM ... .30"
2/8 10:00AM last 24hrs... .61"
2/8 5:20PM last 24hrs... .28"
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I got 'moist' (whatever that means... ) but it didn't last long (as usual) jim
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from what I understand you guys are getting a pineapple express storm, that's supposed to do 2"-3" sounds amazing . all we are getting down here is cloudsOwen wrote:Our storm was better for the period 24hrs ago (.9"); in the last 24hrs, .17". It's wet, but not to the point of creating vernal pond runoff. Now north of the bay is getting hit with this storm, so Marin/Napa/Sonoma folks should have some good critters. We need another 2" to entice the Ambystoma out of their holes.
4:00PM update .25"
4:30PM ... .30"
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That's a really pretty map...can I get a framed copy?
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Disappointing totals in the South Bay, especially Santa Clara Valley. If I compare to last season Almanac (SJ Airport):
Oct 1 2012 to Feb 10, 2013 = 7.96"
Oct 1 2013 to Feb 10, 2014 = 1.94"
And last year saw little after January. Explains the still dry ponds and/or puddle ponds.
Oct 1 2012 to Feb 10, 2013 = 7.96"
Oct 1 2013 to Feb 10, 2014 = 1.94"
And last year saw little after January. Explains the still dry ponds and/or puddle ponds.
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Owen wrote:Disappointing totals in the South Bay, especially Santa Clara Valley. If I compare to last season Almanac (SJ Airport):
Oct 1 2012 to Feb 10, 2013 = 7.96"
Oct 1 2013 to Feb 10, 2014 = 1.94"
And last year saw little after January. Explains the still dry ponds and/or puddle ponds.
Wow! , you guys got screwed all that rain and it couldnt go a little bit south , I heard there were some places that got 7+ inches and one place got 20!!
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My rain gauge here at work (Nevada County) said we got 10 inches of rain the last few days. A friend a few miles away said he got 14 inches of rain. Hopefully I can find some herps this week,mattg wrote:
Wow! , you guys got screwed all that rain and it couldnt go a little bit south , I heard there were some places that got 7+ inches and one place got 20!!
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All we ask from you Nor Cal friends is for you to share a little. 1 inch of rain would do us wonders, but instead you guys hog all of it.My rain gauge here at work (Nevada County) said we got 10 inches of rain the last few days. A friend a few miles away said he got 14 inches of rain. Hopefully I can find some herps this week,
Thanks alot..
We are still hurting bad and no rain in the forecast, ugh..
Fundad
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Here in Santa Cruz Co we got anywhere from 1.5 to 10" of rain over the weekend which was a welcome relief, but we are still way behind the average. It was however enough to bring out the Salamanders, at least for the time being.
Here's a large Arboreal from some coastal grasslands from the area that didn't get very much rain.
The next day I went out into the mountains were there was some good rainfall. It was an area where we did a vegetation management burn last November and I wanted to see the effects. I checked both the burn and non-burn side of the road and was happy to find Salamanders in both areas. I found a total of 31 Salamanders of 4 species in just over an hour. Here's a sample:
Another Arboreal (Unburned area)
CA Newt (Unburned area)
Banana Slugs (Unburned)
CA Slender (Unburned area)
CA Slender on ash
Yellow-eyed Ensatina on ash
Here'a photo of where we burned, about 20' in from the line and that's about as deep in as I went. It was a low intensity fire along the perimeter, but cooked pretty good in the interior. I'll have to check that part out on another trip.
Here's a habitat shot of the unburned side, and yes there were far more Salamanders on this side. YE Ensatinas were the predominant species found in the burn.
Here's a large Arboreal from some coastal grasslands from the area that didn't get very much rain.
The next day I went out into the mountains were there was some good rainfall. It was an area where we did a vegetation management burn last November and I wanted to see the effects. I checked both the burn and non-burn side of the road and was happy to find Salamanders in both areas. I found a total of 31 Salamanders of 4 species in just over an hour. Here's a sample:
Another Arboreal (Unburned area)
CA Newt (Unburned area)
Banana Slugs (Unburned)
CA Slender (Unburned area)
CA Slender on ash
Yellow-eyed Ensatina on ash
Here'a photo of where we burned, about 20' in from the line and that's about as deep in as I went. It was a low intensity fire along the perimeter, but cooked pretty good in the interior. I'll have to check that part out on another trip.
Here's a habitat shot of the unburned side, and yes there were far more Salamanders on this side. YE Ensatinas were the predominant species found in the burn.
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Fundad wrote:
All we ask from you Nor Cal friends is for you to share a little. 1 inch of rain would do us wonders, but instead you guys hog all of it.
Fundad
Maybe you guys are overdoing it on the rain dances. I don't dance, for I fear that I may scare the rain gods away (it has scared girls away). I have the dancing skills of Elaine on Sienfield. (and I just dated myself with a 20 year old sitcom).
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Sienfield is 20 years OLD??? Please say it isn't soo..Sienfield. (and I just dated myself with a 20 year old sitcom).
Ugh..
I am afraid its going to be a lost year in So Cal..
Fundad
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I'm pretty sure that they don't aestivate. I think they remain active down in the burrows all year. They also live quite a while, so I think they can weather a couple drought years, but I have seen quite a few really skinny newts, so I'm not sure of how great life is in their little caves. Insects under rocks and logs are still pretty good, but as it dries out further, I'm sure it will rapidly decrease.Zach_Lim wrote:The Tigers could aestivate down in the ground around that pond for a few years, right?
What's really going to be bad off are the Bay Checkerspot butterflies. They basically live on one ridge and have only a couple host plants (dwarf plantain/owl's clover). The adults emerge this time of year and there have been no wildflowers blooming to date.
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From the NWS forecast for Southern California this morning:
"THE BIGGEST STORM OF THE YEAR AND POSSIBLY 2 OR 3 YEARS REMAINS ON
TRACK FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. IT IS REMARKABLE HOW CONSISTENTLY THE
MDLS HAVE HANDLED THIS STORM AND CONFIDENCE IS MUCH HIGHER THAN
NORMAL FOR A STORM THIS FAR OUT.
AT 12Z FRIDAY A 532 DM LOW WILL BE 600 SM WNW OF KSFO AND A NEG TILT
TROF WILL XTND TO THE SE FROM THE LOW. BOTH GFS AND EC MOVE THE TROF
AXIS UP AND INTO THE AREA FROM THE SW. MOST IMPORTANTLY A 993 MB SFC
LOW WILL SET UP 100 NM WEST OF PT CONCEPTION THIS WILL CREATE VERY
STRONG LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW. GFS BRINGS A LARGE FIELD OF 45KT
SOUTHERLY WIND TO THE AREA WITH AT LEAST 40 KTS AT 850 MB.
RAIN WILL SPREAD OVER THE AREA FRIDAY MORNING AND IT SHOULD STEADILY
RAIN UNTIL AT LEAST SATURDAY EVENING. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE
HEAVIEST RAIN WILL BE DURING THE DAY FRIDAY (TIMING OF THE SMALLER
ELEMENTS OF THE STORM COULD CHANGE AS WE GET NEARER TO IT.)
EXCELLENT JET DYNAMICS NOT ONLY WILL ENHANCE THE RAINFALL BUT WILL
ALLOW FOR A SLIGHT CHC OF TSTMS AS WELL.
PRELIMINARY RAINFALL AMOUNTS FOR THIS STORM CALL FOR 1 TO 2 INCHES
FOR COASTAL AND VALLEY AREAS WITH 2 TO 4 INCHES IN THE FOOTHILLS AND
MOUNTAINS...WITH EVEN HIGHER (MAYBE WAY HIGHER) AMOUNTS POSSIBLE
ALONG SOUTH FACING SLOPES."
"THE BIGGEST STORM OF THE YEAR AND POSSIBLY 2 OR 3 YEARS REMAINS ON
TRACK FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. IT IS REMARKABLE HOW CONSISTENTLY THE
MDLS HAVE HANDLED THIS STORM AND CONFIDENCE IS MUCH HIGHER THAN
NORMAL FOR A STORM THIS FAR OUT.
AT 12Z FRIDAY A 532 DM LOW WILL BE 600 SM WNW OF KSFO AND A NEG TILT
TROF WILL XTND TO THE SE FROM THE LOW. BOTH GFS AND EC MOVE THE TROF
AXIS UP AND INTO THE AREA FROM THE SW. MOST IMPORTANTLY A 993 MB SFC
LOW WILL SET UP 100 NM WEST OF PT CONCEPTION THIS WILL CREATE VERY
STRONG LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW. GFS BRINGS A LARGE FIELD OF 45KT
SOUTHERLY WIND TO THE AREA WITH AT LEAST 40 KTS AT 850 MB.
RAIN WILL SPREAD OVER THE AREA FRIDAY MORNING AND IT SHOULD STEADILY
RAIN UNTIL AT LEAST SATURDAY EVENING. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE
HEAVIEST RAIN WILL BE DURING THE DAY FRIDAY (TIMING OF THE SMALLER
ELEMENTS OF THE STORM COULD CHANGE AS WE GET NEARER TO IT.)
EXCELLENT JET DYNAMICS NOT ONLY WILL ENHANCE THE RAINFALL BUT WILL
ALLOW FOR A SLIGHT CHC OF TSTMS AS WELL.
PRELIMINARY RAINFALL AMOUNTS FOR THIS STORM CALL FOR 1 TO 2 INCHES
FOR COASTAL AND VALLEY AREAS WITH 2 TO 4 INCHES IN THE FOOTHILLS AND
MOUNTAINS...WITH EVEN HIGHER (MAYBE WAY HIGHER) AMOUNTS POSSIBLE
ALONG SOUTH FACING SLOPES."
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Believe it when I see it, every "rain" forecast for the last two years has been more talk and less action..
>Holding Breath.
Fundad
>Holding Breath.
Fundad
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I'll keep my fingers crossed. Looks like LA (2"-3") will get more than SJ (1.5") out of the next storm, but we have an extra storm following up early next week, so it could even out. It will at least grow the grass.
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It started around 8:00AM here. Light rain so far. It should pick up around noon. I found a 5-1/4" Batrachoseps while weeding on Sunday. They'll be on the crawl in the yard this evening.
I only saw one around the pool deck, but we only got about 5/8" rain here. I do have a 30 gal waste barrel full of water for my plants from this
I only saw one around the pool deck, but we only got about 5/8" rain here. I do have a 30 gal waste barrel full of water for my plants from this
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http://www.southerncaliforniaweatheraut ... arch-1983/
"(Southern California Weather Authority.com) – Southern California is about to have one of the strongest dynamical storms in many years, with all the ingredients there for a severe weather event, including the possibility of tornado dynamics. Dynamics like this have not been seen in Southern California since March 1983, when numerous tornado reports across the Basins hit. The tornado environment is increasing."
"(Southern California Weather Authority.com) – Southern California is about to have one of the strongest dynamical storms in many years, with all the ingredients there for a severe weather event, including the possibility of tornado dynamics. Dynamics like this have not been seen in Southern California since March 1983, when numerous tornado reports across the Basins hit. The tornado environment is increasing."
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I ain't never scared... I'm gonna be out in it, looking for the first ever SB mts aboreal... boooooo-YAHHHHHHHHHH jim