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Florida colubrid ID help

Post by Zach_Lim » August 26th, 2013, 1:25 pm

Someone emailed me this picture off of Tumblr asking for an ID.

It was found in the "Florida Panhandle".

First thought was "Eastern Coachwhip".

Any thoughts?

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by justinm » August 26th, 2013, 2:01 pm

This looks like a juvenile racer.

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by Zach_Lim » August 26th, 2013, 2:21 pm

Yeah, I am kinda leaning towards that now. The fading neonate patterns kinda reflect Coluber constrictor...

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by SnakeDude » August 26th, 2013, 3:42 pm

for sure juvie racer.

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by Tamara D. McConnell » August 26th, 2013, 5:11 pm

Juv racer is my vote, too.

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by dery » August 26th, 2013, 7:44 pm

Priapus? what county?

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by dylank » August 27th, 2013, 11:30 am

definatley racer

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by Coluber Constrictor » August 27th, 2013, 4:02 pm

Racer.

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by Shane_TX » August 29th, 2013, 6:28 pm

That's a little coachwhip. My first though was racer due to the bold coloration but the head especially and pattern after a closer look tend to give it away. Not what hatchling coachwhips look like in my neck of the woods but a coachwhip in any case.

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by justinm » August 30th, 2013, 6:30 am

Shane_TX wrote:That's a little coachwhip. My first though was racer due to the bold coloration but the head especially and pattern after a closer look tend to give it away. Not what hatchling coachwhips look like in my neck of the woods but a coachwhip in any case.

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Juvie coachwhips that I've seen, albeit two, were very light colored and had enormous eyes. To me this looks like a priapus, or Southern Black Racer. I will bow to your knowledge, with a respectful disagreement.

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Re: Florida colubrid ID help

Post by Cole Grover » August 30th, 2013, 7:29 am

Interesting animal. The head looks too narrow for Coluber constrictor in my experience, though camera angle could have a role in this.

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