Someone sent this to me at work today. The caption read, "Photographer bitten by Black Mamba during photoshoot"
http://i.imgur.com/qE3mLZh.jpg
Bart
Anyone know the origin of this picture?
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I am pretty certain I read it is this guy who was bitten while photographing the snakes for his book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/141970 ... UTF8&psc=1
His book comes out this week.
His book comes out this week.
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Yup! That's it! I knew someone on here would know!
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Thanks - Bart
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A news article said he didn't realize he was bitten until he developed the pictures the next day. Said it was a dry bite. Dry or not, I notice when a garter snake bites me, besides it usually bleeds. How to you take any bite from a snake that big and not know it?
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01 ... -next-day/#
If you type "photographer bitten by black mamba" into google a bunch of articles pop up. Yeah I'm with Andy on this one, I know it can happen quickly but how do you not even notice getting bit??
Also the articles say that a bite from a mamba is 100% fatal if it injects venom, I'm skeptical. Anyone know the facts on this one, or do they mean if left untreated or what?
If you type "photographer bitten by black mamba" into google a bunch of articles pop up. Yeah I'm with Andy on this one, I know it can happen quickly but how do you not even notice getting bit??
Also the articles say that a bite from a mamba is 100% fatal if it injects venom, I'm skeptical. Anyone know the facts on this one, or do they mean if left untreated or what?
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I just read (probably the same article) here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... snake.htmlAndy Avram wrote:A news article said he didn't realize he was bitten until he developed the pictures the next day. Said it was a dry bite. Dry or not, I notice when a garter snake bites me, besides it usually bleeds. How to you take any bite from a snake that big and not know it?
And I was thinking the exact same thing. I mean, I know snakes are fast and all, but like you, when you get tagged, you know it. Also, given the type of snake he was shooting, you would *think* he would have had an assistant/handler there with him, possibly more than one, who would have witnessed the bite. Not to mention, the fact that he has a photograph of it, you would think he would have known it was THAT close to his VERY unprotected flesh. I dunno, the story sounds dodgy, however the photo is interesting.
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Yes, sounds like sensationalism at its finest. Probably should read, 100% fatal if left untreated.Antonsrkn wrote:100% fatal
Bart
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One of the reasons that Black Mamba bites are considered 100% lethal is because in most places where bites occur are very rural, hours and hours away from any hospital let alone a hospital with anti-venom. When I was in Kenya, I heard of many accounts of people getting bit by Mambas and Only living a half hour at most. Of course there are sensational stories out there but in parts where most bites occur they are pretty much 100% fatal.
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I read an article that said that was a "misquote"... leave it to the media. The photographer corrected the article by saying he didn't realize he had managed to get a photo of being bitten until the next day.Andy Avram wrote:A news article said he didn't realize he was bitten until he developed the pictures the next day. Said it was a dry bite. Dry or not, I notice when a garter snake bites me, besides it usually bleeds. How to you take any bite from a snake that big and not know it?
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So you want me to believe that a live Black Mamba has gotten out of control while you were photographing it, dropped/moved down to wrap around your bare legs, and your first reaction is to point the camera down there, focus, and take a photo?Chris Smith wrote: The photographer corrected the article by saying he didn't realize he had managed to get a photo of being bitten until the next day.
Sorry, but I call BS on this one.
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Is that even a black mamba? Head looks right but don't recall seeing any pics of an ashy gray form. They're not named for their color but for the mouth lining.
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The snake is a black mamba alright...
Here is a link to the story according to the photographer with some additional notes and thoughts.
http://strangebehaviors.wordpress.com/2 ... ack-story/
There was a discussion of this on Harry Greene's Facebook wall where people who had worked with the photographer reckoned that the described scenario is plausible.
I guess my take is that either the mamba was a venomoid or its owner was criminally irresponsible....
Here is a link to the story according to the photographer with some additional notes and thoughts.
http://strangebehaviors.wordpress.com/2 ... ack-story/
There was a discussion of this on Harry Greene's Facebook wall where people who had worked with the photographer reckoned that the described scenario is plausible.
I guess my take is that either the mamba was a venomoid or its owner was criminally irresponsible....
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Some say I'm cynical, but just sounds like some book promotion work (gorilla marketing style).
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Yeah, something still doesn't smell right to me. Anyone with a shred of sanity that was tagged by any hot snake, would take him/herself to a freakin' ER and get checked...
Either way, interesting, and thanks for the replies.
Bart
Either way, interesting, and thanks for the replies.
Bart
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Book promotion for sure. He would have felt the bite and any sane person would go to the ER immediately.
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I bet WW is correct and the mamba was a venomoid and he did this stunt to help sell books.
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Take it to the bank.....VENOMOID. WW nailed it. Done. End of story. Over.
Or just google "total douche expects morons to believe him" and his book will come up for sale on amazon.
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Or just google "total douche expects morons to believe him" and his book will come up for sale on amazon.
scott
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The white shorts give it away...venomoid
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I actually picked up this book....
The introduction by Vollmann (not the author) also comments on him being bit and says that "it must have been a dry bite" which would imply that the snake was not venomoid. It wouldn't make much sense to sensationalize the anecdote or advertise it in the book if it were simply done to increase notice. I tend to think that they just weren't smart working with the animals... why wasn't someone else there helping with handling, why was he wearing shorts, in the book it says he accidentally hooked a cable instead of the snake while trying to move it?, How would you not have seen the snake biting you (in front of you or through the camera)?!
Anyways, the book itself has some beautiful images... really fantastic shots.
Only three criticisms:
- too much free space in the book (an "artistic" move)
- I would have liked to have seen some shots showing portraits (almost all are top down profiles... another "artistic" move)
- the book, intro and design, reminds me of the Chanel #5 commercial with Brad Pitt... haha... couldn't get that commercial out of my head while reading the intro. I'm not a hillbilly that can't appreciate fine art, I even have a good amount of philosophy under my belt (one class away from a third BS degree) - I mention philosophy because that's were some of the quotes lead, but there is just something about it that rubs me the wrong way.
Overall, well worth it for the photos (I paid <$25 for it on B&N) alone.... a nice piece to add to a collection. *BTW, coffee table sized book
The introduction by Vollmann (not the author) also comments on him being bit and says that "it must have been a dry bite" which would imply that the snake was not venomoid. It wouldn't make much sense to sensationalize the anecdote or advertise it in the book if it were simply done to increase notice. I tend to think that they just weren't smart working with the animals... why wasn't someone else there helping with handling, why was he wearing shorts, in the book it says he accidentally hooked a cable instead of the snake while trying to move it?, How would you not have seen the snake biting you (in front of you or through the camera)?!
Anyways, the book itself has some beautiful images... really fantastic shots.
Only three criticisms:
- too much free space in the book (an "artistic" move)
- I would have liked to have seen some shots showing portraits (almost all are top down profiles... another "artistic" move)
- the book, intro and design, reminds me of the Chanel #5 commercial with Brad Pitt... haha... couldn't get that commercial out of my head while reading the intro. I'm not a hillbilly that can't appreciate fine art, I even have a good amount of philosophy under my belt (one class away from a third BS degree) - I mention philosophy because that's were some of the quotes lead, but there is just something about it that rubs me the wrong way.
Overall, well worth it for the photos (I paid <$25 for it on B&N) alone.... a nice piece to add to a collection. *BTW, coffee table sized book