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Belize ID request?

Post by Warren » June 13th, 2012, 10:41 pm

Some pics from my friend's trip to Belize, posted for ID.
Love the knowledge on the forum!
Some of them seem obvious, but sometimes I think I know it and then the crowdsourcing reveals it to be something close, but slightly different.
Plus you never know when a regional variant of something has been split into a new species, and only the people up on the literature can tell you.

Thanks!

Warren

ImageLizard 1

ImageLizard 2

ImageLizard 3

ImageLizard 4

ImageLizard 5

ImageLizard 6

ImageLizard 7

ImageLizard 8

ImageLizard 9

ImageLizard 10

ImageSnake 1

ImageFrog 1

ImageFrog 2

ImageFrog 3

ImageFrog 4

ImageFrog 5

ImageTurtle 1

ImageTurtle 2

ImageTurtle 3

ImageCroc 1

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Sam Bacchini » June 14th, 2012, 6:11 am

Lizard 2 spiny-tail iguana (Ctenosaura similis)
Lizard 3 and 4 green iguana (Iguana iguana)
Lizard 8 Banded basilisk (Basiliscus vitattus)

Turtle 1 and 2 Yucatan slider (Trachemys venusta iversoni)
Croc 1 Morelet's crocodile (Crocodylus moreletii)

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by WW** » June 14th, 2012, 7:28 am

Snake 1: Thamnophis marcianus - Checkered garter snake

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Gluesenkamp » June 14th, 2012, 8:15 am

Lizard #1 = Gehyra sp.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Ribbit » June 14th, 2012, 8:34 am

A few more off the top of my head:

Lizard 5: Anolis sp.
Lizard 6: Anolis cupreus (?)
Lizard 7: Sphaerodactylus sp.
Lizard 10: Ameiva undulata

Frog 2: Rhinella marina

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Warren » June 14th, 2012, 10:22 am

Thanks for the info so far, guys!

After looking here, I'm pretty sure Turtle 3 is a Green Turtle (Chelonia mydas).

Assuming everyone is correct, we're still looking for Lizard 9, and Frogs 1,3,4,5.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Jimmy_77 » June 14th, 2012, 10:30 am

Gluesenkamp wrote:Lizard #1 = Gehyra sp.
Is Gehyra really native to Belize???

i guess Thecadactylus rapicauda or some introduced Hemidactylus sp..

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Jimmy_77 » June 14th, 2012, 10:34 am

Lizard 9 is probably same species as Lizard 1, and pretty sure it isnt any Gehyra sp. More likely one of the species I just mentioned.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Ribbit » June 14th, 2012, 10:40 am

OK, now I have a field guide in hand…

Lizard 5: Possibly adult female Anolis sagrei
Lizard 6: Anolis lemurinus (sometimes classified as Norops lemurinus) -- A. cupreus doesn’t seem to make it that far north
Lizard 7: Sphaerodactylus glaucus
Lizard 9: Hemidactylus frenatus (I think)

Frog 1: juvenile Rhinella marina
Frog 3: Scinax staufferi?
Frog 4: Smilisca sp., probably Smilisca baudinii
Frog 5: Hyla microcephala?

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by chrish » June 14th, 2012, 12:32 pm

OK here's my take without my field guide....

Lizard 1 - Hemidactylus frenatus
Lizard 2 - Ctenosaura similis
Lizard 3 - Iguana iguana
Lizard 4 - Iguana iguana
Lizard 5 - Anolis tropidonotus
Lizard 6 - Anolis lemurinus
Lizard 7 - Sphaerodactylus sp.?
Lizard 8 - Basiliscus vittatus
Lizard 9 - Hemidactylus mabouia (???)
Lizard 10 - Ameiva (either festiva or undulata - I don't remember how to tell them apart)
Snake - Thamnophis marcianus praeocularis
Frog 1 - Juvie toad. Pattern suggests Incilius campbelli (or maybe valliceps???) - could even be a juvie marina, but I've never seen a juvie marina with that much pattern.
Frog 2 - Rhinella marina
Frog 3 - Scinax staufferi
Frog 4 - Smilisca baudinii
Frog 5 - Tlalcohyla loquax (??) tough to tell, particular without a size reference. This frog is not "petite" enough to be microcephala.
Turtle 1 and 2 - Trachemys venustus
Croc - Crocodylus acutus (or maybe moreletii - I don't remember the difference. Looks like acutus to me)

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Sam Bacchini » June 14th, 2012, 12:37 pm

chrish wrote:Croc - Crocodylus acutus (or maybe moreletii - I don't remember the difference)
It's morlettii, acutus has a more elongated snout.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by JakeScott » June 14th, 2012, 2:33 pm

#7: Sphaerodactylus glaucus
#9: Just a darker Hemidactylus frenatus

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Owen » June 14th, 2012, 3:02 pm

chrish wrote:OK here's my take without my field guide....

Lizard 1 - Hemidactylus frenatus
Lizard 2 - Ctenosaura similis
Lizard 3 - Iguana iguana
Lizard 4 - Iguana iguana
Lizard 5 - Anolis tropidonotus
Lizard 6 - Anolis lemurinus
Lizard 7 - Sphaerodactylus sp.?
Lizard 8 - Basiliscus vittatus
Lizard 9 - Hemidactylus mabouia (???)
Lizard 10 - Ameiva (either festiva or undulata - I don't remember how to tell them apart)
Snake - Thamnophis marcianus praeocularis
Frog 1 - Juvie toad. Pattern suggests Incilius campbelli (or maybe valliceps???) - could even be a juvie marina, but I've never seen a juvie marina with that much pattern.
Frog 2 - Rhinella marina
Frog 3 - Scinax staufferi
Frog 4 - Smilisca baudinii
Frog 5 - Tlalcohyla loquax (??) tough to tell, particular without a size reference. This frog is not "petite" enough to be microcephala.
Turtle 1 and 2 - Trachemys venustus
Croc - Crocodylus acutus (or maybe moreletii - I don't remember the difference. Looks like acutus to me)
I agree with 1 looking live frenatus, but 9 looks like garnotii to me. Then again, I've only seen them on Hawai'i vacations years ago. Funny how those get around.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Ribbit » June 14th, 2012, 4:10 pm

chrish wrote: Frog 1 - Juvie toad. Pattern suggests Incilius campbelli (or maybe valliceps???) - could even be a juvie marina, but I've never seen a juvie marina with that much pattern.
Julian Lee’s “A Field Guide to the Amphibians and Reptiles of the Maya World” has a photo of a juvie R. marina (called Bufo marinus in the book) that’s got a somewhat similar pattern -- even more patterned, but somewhat blotchier. That’s what leaned me towards R. marina, though I agree it could be one of the other local toads.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Don Cascabel » June 14th, 2012, 10:15 pm

I think most of the stuff has been correctly IDed at this point, let us know what's missing... the juvie toad looks like a juvie marinus to me, I see them often here with that pattern.

Cheers,

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Don Cascabel » June 14th, 2012, 10:16 pm

PS - both of your house geckos look to be frenatus to me.

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Re: Belize ID request?

Post by Warren » June 15th, 2012, 9:23 am

Señor Cascabel,

I'm cool with it!

Thanks everyone for all your wonderful help!

Warren

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