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by WSTREPS
September 22nd, 2017, 2:08 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

However that still leaves lots of trade space- should Chuckwalla bag limit be 0/yr, 100/yr or 500/yr? Should the aggregate for all lizards be 3000 or 4000? Commission is also considering limiting the number of commercial collecting licenses sold per year. Great idea considering only 7 were sold las...
by WSTREPS
September 21st, 2017, 4:40 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Jason Jones first recommendation is a complete ban. If that fails to fly this is his next proposal. A list of rules and proposed quotas as recommended by the NDOW(Jason Jones) . Jones presented absolutely ZERO scientifically sound data or anything of substance on any level to base these proposed reg...
by WSTREPS
September 20th, 2017, 2:59 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Still yapping about pitfall traps? Read my previous post for a true perspective . What NDOW biologist Jason Jones is doing with his pitfall trap language is using an old academic parlor trick. That is when you ascribe a maximum effect to a causative agent of barely detectable intensity you can make ...
by WSTREPS
September 18th, 2017, 12:50 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

“A reptile collector took responsibility for pitfall traps at the August meeting, saying that they are for collecting scorpions, not reptiles, Jennifer Newmark, administrator of wildlife diversity for the Nevada Department of Wildlife, said. Regardless of the intent, the traps are a "huge source of...
by WSTREPS
September 18th, 2017, 9:50 am
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

You seem really locked in on objectivity? In your eyes is the only objective person in the discussion Richard Hoyer? Everyone else is un-objective and therefore wrong? You must first place objectivity into perspective. Objectivity in everyday conversation is a important quality for a person to expr...
by WSTREPS
September 17th, 2017, 6:05 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Herpetologists - you can help save Nevada's reptiles
Replies: 37
Views: 14328

Re: Herpetologists - you can help save Nevada's reptiles

I'm not opposed to regulations which make sense. I support bag limits based on sound management principles. I'm not a commercial collector and don't condone limitless collecting. But the timing and manner of how a complete ban is being considered and promoted in Nevada is cause for concern, at leas...
by WSTREPS
September 17th, 2017, 12:41 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: Herpetologists - you can help save Nevada's reptiles
Replies: 37
Views: 14328

Re: Herpetologists - you can help save Nevada's reptiles

At the June Nevada wildlife commissioner's meeting NDOW biologist Jason Jones gave a presentation that was very much inline with what is seen from activist groups. High on tabloid style shock value and nearly devoid of anything that could pass as science. As Jones bumbled and stumbled his was thru t...
by WSTREPS
September 16th, 2017, 6:39 am
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Richard's long and interesting post went into greater detail discussing some of the key points I previously touched on. A point that should be made clear that has been misused by some posters has been the referencing the use of illegal pitfall trap lines by the collectors. It is legal to use pitfall...
by WSTREPS
September 15th, 2017, 4:22 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

A:Jason Jones provided at least 3 extensive briefs to the Game Commission over the past year – at their request. As the agency expert he remained neutral and simply provided the data. NDOW basically gave up on any sort of management of reptile commercial collectors after they lost the 1999 battle (...
by WSTREPS
September 9th, 2017, 5:06 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

NDOW has an incredibly friendly posture towards field herpers and the data they provide. This is not true. For decades the NDOW has targeted the handful of reptile collectors that reside in the state. The NDOW has proven themselves untrustworthy by relying on an approach that involves more shock va...
by WSTREPS
September 8th, 2017, 5:22 am
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Predictive modeling may be poor (in your opinion) but relative to what? Not having a model. A range map? Expert opinion? Those are still models, predictive modeling tries to take all the information we know, keep everything transparent and make the most scientificly supported guess possible. I susp...
by WSTREPS
September 7th, 2017, 12:57 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

I don't know what the percent of occupied chuckwalla habitat is in Nevada. Chuckwalla's in Nevada are patchily distributed in extremely rocky habitats, so there is a lot of unoccupied habitat . If only some entity, some management agency could address these gaps in distribution. Perhaps through pre...
by WSTREPS
September 6th, 2017, 3:55 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

That is, an average of 1026 reptiles were harvested per collector in 1995 (31,803 / 31) whereas the same figure for 2016 was nearly the same at 1015 / collector (7102 / 7). I haven’t the foggiest notion why that didn’t resonate with Jason Jones and the NDOW leadership? I suspect they failed to obje...
by WSTREPS
September 5th, 2017, 12:39 am
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

The following is something for Ernie E. to consider. Bryan is correct when he mentioned “Their biologists are not stupid. They are not scam artists.” I concur so let me explain as at times, I believe you are sometimes too harsh because you may have overlooking some realities. After all, someone in ...
by WSTREPS
September 3rd, 2017, 1:36 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Lets look at some REAL numbers and claims as reported by NDOW Biologist , Jason Jones. Please keep in mind I'm only scratching at the surface of this guys unhinged comments and analysis. Jones claims and highlight's that in a single yr one collector accounted for this number. A total of 5,907 reptil...
by WSTREPS
September 3rd, 2017, 4:36 am
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

I think there is a genuine need for all animal people to come together and realize that some give and take could go a long way toward making sure the future is bright and that we crank out as many people who want to preserve reptiles and other animals for the future as possible exist. That's a nice...
by WSTREPS
September 2nd, 2017, 7:07 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

you might understand how laughable it is to think that biologists are pulling the strings in the agencies Bryan Hamilton What's laughable is to imply that the impute of state and federal biologist doesn't play a major role in these situations. Why do you think they are called upon in the first plac...
by WSTREPS
September 2nd, 2017, 5:59 am
Forum: News
Topic: The Reptile Black Market Still Around
Replies: 7
Views: 12800

Re: The Reptile Black Market Still Around

Ernie, I agree with you that what their doing isn't doing any good confiscating animals that were likely on deaths doorstep), but ideally China would just allow export so no one needs to risk life searching pringles cans? agree? Ideally that would be great. But its not that simple. In China cobras ...
by WSTREPS
September 1st, 2017, 4:09 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

banning commercial collecting really only prevents 7 people from going out and catching things, so that's why I remain largely uninterested in the result. I completely understand but, This involves only 7 people and a very small number of reptiles (when placed into the proper perspective and factor...
by WSTREPS
September 1st, 2017, 12:09 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

I use the term "domestically produced" to imply produced under human care, not "domestic" in the Constitutional sense ("all enemies, foreign and domestic"). Most people call this "captive bred" and that is what the slideshow implies. Exactly the point I wanted make. That's what these scientist do. ...
by WSTREPS
September 1st, 2017, 9:56 am
Forum: News
Topic: The Reptile Black Market Still Around
Replies: 7
Views: 12800

Re: The Reptile Black Market Still Around

36 yrs later Federal Fish and Wildlife are still talking about the time they ran a 7 million dollar sting to bust a bunch of small time collector's and a few dealers that were hanging on by their finger nails. Now 36 yrs later wildlife law enforcement is still spinning their wheels trying to justify...
by WSTREPS
September 1st, 2017, 4:23 am
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

I sure wish I could see the notes associated with each of the slides...Slide 14 implies the US is domestically producing and exporting over a quarter million brown anoles annually...I've never known anyone who breeds them for export. That is true. All the brown anoles exported are produced domestic...
by WSTREPS
August 31st, 2017, 4:23 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Ernie, I sympathize with you that banning it won't do any good as I doubt it has any effect anyway, but do you think it will cause any harm either so long as personal and educational use remains open? If it only effects 7 people, hard to imagine the average joe really worrying too much about it. It...
by WSTREPS
August 31st, 2017, 1:44 pm
Forum: News
Topic: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Nevada
Replies: 235
Views: 252288

Re: State pushes to tighten wild reptile collection rules-Ne

Patrick Donnelly, who runs the Center for Biological Diversity’s regional office in Las Vegas, argued collection can have “huge, cascading effects on overall (reptile) population numbers.” He added that the commission, a nine-member panel appointed by the governor and charged with protecting the st...
by WSTREPS
August 24th, 2017, 12:26 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs
Replies: 9
Views: 5814

Re: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs

My personal opine is that some airboat jockey came across the snake, decapitated it and the bloated body eventually went boom. I doubt eating that gator caused the mother of all digestive problems. That's possible. As famous and controversial as this photo is. You would think that someone who was a...
by WSTREPS
August 22nd, 2017, 4:40 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs
Replies: 9
Views: 5814

Re: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs

A request was made involving a thread about unethical photos. I supplied the requested link along with what might have been the most unethical reptile photo ever taken . A subsequent question was posed to me about that photo. I answered that question. Never in history has a reptile issue gotten the ...
by WSTREPS
August 22nd, 2017, 7:43 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

Since no expert stepped forward to address my simple questions Ill go over a few comments made by DR. FRANK MAZZOTTI one of the "key" Python go to guys. MAZZOTTI: But the problem is that they're an invasive species, and the danger that they cause is really to the ecosystem. Well, this isn't top pred...
by WSTREPS
August 21st, 2017, 7:00 pm
Forum: The Forum
Topic: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs
Replies: 9
Views: 5814

Re: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs

They were staged, for real? The one is staged for sure. The other the famous "exploding" python next to the helicopter photo. Here's what I can definitely say about that. That is the most publicized snake photo of all time. It was delivered to the press by the USGS and received unprecedented nation...
by WSTREPS
August 20th, 2017, 8:54 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs
Replies: 9
Views: 5814

Re: help sought finding an old thread re unethical photogs

Truths behind fake nature photography http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21596&hilit=fake+herp+photos Animal planet crap, National Geographic, Nature documentaries, whatever. Its almost all staged. This photo is real nature. My cat confronting a flying squirrel in my office and ...
by WSTREPS
August 18th, 2017, 4:25 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

Since this thread is still riding at the top and getting views I would like to touch on a few more things. Panther Chameleon's imported from Madagascar at this point I believe are all captive born and raised animal's. The article said that Panther Chameleon's sell for as much as $1000.00.This is tru...
by WSTREPS
August 12th, 2017, 1:19 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4431/35692748134_7a922cff53.jpg No not that! Not slimy chameleon's on my porch! Yep, 13yr olds know about the Veiled in a bucket breeding trick. But I bet most of the people who read this thread don't. 20yrs ago scientist thought these lizards were rare. They couldn't...
by WSTREPS
August 11th, 2017, 2:01 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

I didn't expect any expert testimonies on the shipping of chameleons. “You can’t do overnight shipping from Yemen,” says Holbrook. Maybe someone should inform Holbrook that we have something called the jet airliner. A miraculous vehicle capable of transporting a "shipment" from Yemen to the US more ...
by WSTREPS
August 10th, 2017, 1:54 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

Arboreal don't ship well ? An odd and poorly supported generalized statement. Not true. You can make a case for some specific species. Some of the species out of Africa (Mellers or Senegal chameleons for example).That don't generally don't fare well for various reasons (that I can explain in detail)...
by WSTREPS
August 10th, 2017, 11:43 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

A drop in chameleon imports would be positive from a welfare perspective: Chameleons shipped overseas in boxes and crates do not fare well during transport. “You can’t do overnight shipping from Yemen,” says Holbrook. “By the time they are here. it’s a sick animal sent out to pet shops.” Yet anothe...
by WSTREPS
July 29th, 2017, 6:35 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/35847420400_4b5e509a32.jpg This photo is of the exact location near the rt 80 exit of I 75 that the first chameleons were introduced. I believe in 2002. At this location not only could you find veiled chameleon's but also all sorts of pill junkie's, drunks and ga...
by WSTREPS
July 26th, 2017, 8:51 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

Is it really illegal to collect a non-native species (aside from trespassing if you don't have permission)? You can legally catch all you want. There are no laws about collecting, its releasing that's illegal. Chameleon collecting has taken the place of brown anole collecting. The lizards already a...
by WSTREPS
July 22nd, 2017, 5:18 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

Notice at 1:56 they have a drawing of a shady and villainous looking guy with stacks of crates on ether side of him. At the top the name: Reptile Guy with the word eviction written in big red letters across the picture to the left are crates maked in large bold letters TEGU, PYTHON and to the right ...
by WSTREPS
July 21st, 2017, 2:39 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

First off the attention grabbing title. The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching, They filled the video with cartoons of villainous looking men in coats and hats hiding in the shadows and exchanging fistfuls of money. All very calculated. They wanted to portray this as villainous and ev...
by WSTREPS
July 20th, 2017, 1:26 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

and why you keep sidestepping the implications of these escapes Anti ownership nutjobs and their limp noodle political friends live for these moments. It gives them an excuse. Ernie Eison I quoted line one from my first post in this thread. Obviously I never sidestepped anything. Between that and t...
by WSTREPS
July 19th, 2017, 9:21 am
Forum: Board Line
Topic: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching
Replies: 40
Views: 55098

Re: The Illegal and Secretive World of Chameleon Ranching

Another typically moronic and misleading piece of National Geographic click bait complete with cartoons and the obligatory squeaky voiced cutesy sorority girl narrative. This looks like something straight out of an episode of Bill Nye the ALL LIE NO SCIENCE GUY. Strange they didn't mention that Nati...
by WSTREPS
July 19th, 2017, 6:08 am
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

But you seem to know everything, so maybe you could enlighten the rest of us. I cant "enlighten" someone who is overly biased in their view or overly obsessed with being right or just FK'n stupid. Sometimes all three. For example, - Keeping non-native venomous snakes in CA requires a state permit. ...
by WSTREPS
July 18th, 2017, 6:11 am
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

It's called inventory control. It's simple in concept. What did you start the year with, and what did you end the year with? Where was it, and where is it all now? What have you brought in, what have you bred? What has died or been sold/traded/given away? Who from, and who to? There's reporting, an...
by WSTREPS
July 17th, 2017, 4:45 am
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

- Somewhere, maybe several in somewheres, the process of getting a permit(s) and keeping it/them (due to satisfying the stipulations) broke down. Obviously that is the fault of the keeper, but the permitting agency/agencies also have some egg on their face. Try to follow this. The guy was keeping s...
by WSTREPS
July 15th, 2017, 12:23 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

As for "a snake is a snake" - wow, that one is waaaay too smart for this dope, I just can't fathom it. "A snake is a snake." Yeah, I'm just too dumb to ever understand that little pearl of wisdom. Clearly. I didn't think anyone could not comprehend my statement based on the context of the conversat...
by WSTREPS
July 13th, 2017, 1:15 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

Ernie, I think the difference is a native species was unavoidable and anti-venin more likely available, yes? Exotic venomous, at least to me, should be kept under very very careful attention. I don't want to encourage a witchhunt, but I do make a distinction. Anti-venin availability is not an issue...
by WSTREPS
July 12th, 2017, 7:38 am
Forum: News
Topic: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).
Replies: 20
Views: 18914

Re: Herps confiscated in CA. (Thousand Oaks).

Anti ownership nutjobs and their limp noodle political friends live for these moments. It gives them an excuse. About a year ago a similar thing happened a few miles from my house. The anti ownership asshats wasted no time launching a full attack to try and bully their way to bans or at the very lea...
by WSTREPS
June 23rd, 2017, 1:37 pm
Forum: Board Line
Topic: Global Warming?
Replies: 47
Views: 45779

Re: Global Warming?

I am not a scientist but I have faith in science and have loved the concept of the scientific method since it was first explained to me. A tested hypothesis to explain something to the exclusion of other explanations with peer review is a beautiful way to reduce bias that humans tend to have. That'...
by WSTREPS
June 10th, 2017, 6:47 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: whitewater
Replies: 75
Views: 29516

Re: whitewater

The question still stands why don't you need a "Fishing License" to play with rattlesnakes in Cali-Snowflake and you do for other reptiles ? You can road cruise and "Take" rattlesnakes everyday if you want . No extra payment / Fishing License required. The only logical reason for this discrimination...
by WSTREPS
June 7th, 2017, 9:03 am
Forum: The Forum
Topic: whitewater
Replies: 75
Views: 29516

Re: whitewater

But all that being said, I truly enjoy picking up wild kingsnakes and rosy boas. I really have no intention to collect them, but it really takes me back to my youth when I did collect a few. For this I need a fishing license. Just like I do when I catch and release fish. The question still stands. ...